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Cowher talks QB situation, more

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Thor, Mar 18, 2025.

  1. Thor

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    Couple thoughts on his thoughts:
    • Agree with his point on consistency. The Steelers will open the season with their fourth different starting QB in four years, with a change in coordinators along the way. It's hard to get a unit to gel without an identity, and hard to construct a lineup to bolster it.
    • On how well-built the team was before Ben's arrival: this also goes with the point above, and is shy I don't like the more passive approach Khan has taken this offseason. If you look at many of his roster moves - including the possibility of a Rodgers at QB - they not only feel like nibbling, but will leave the roster in the same place next year, filling a lot of holes at key positions.
    • I wanted to see the FO either make a commitment to Fields as their QB for the next 2-3 years and build around him, or sign some quality free agents to build a roster that fit their desired scheme and identity. The right QB will come eventually. In the meantime, build a foundation. What they're doing feels like a rebuild... without committing to an actual rebuild.
     
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  2. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    When you don't have a franchise QB you are in rebuild mode, whatever you choose to call it. Bringing in 35+year old guys to be the QB each season will only prolong knowing what you actually have and what you actually need.


    When it comes to getting the right QB, there is no price too high. Trade players, draft capital, future draft capital, etc....
    Get a QB!
     
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  3. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i have thought this whole time that we are going to end up with russell before it's over. :cool:
     
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  4. Thor

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    A few thoughts as another week draws to a close:

    While I'm not as opposed to bringing back Wilson as some (and only at a reasonable price), I should note that my consistency statement above wasn't me stumping for his return. Rather, I'm annoyed with how it feels like they're flailing around with things, making personnel decisions that seem detached from a central identity. Example: last year you pick up Wilson and Fields, two QBs that don't share a lot in common.. and this offseason move on from both to engage in an extended courtship with a 42 y/o Aaron Rodgers. Huh?

    I know there wasn't much out there at the position, but there are other examples. Such as at guard, where there were plenty of upgradable options, which would have left them a competition to see whether they cut Seumalo or have McCormick develop for the year. DJ Reed was arguably the best CB available even though he signed for less than some (3yr/$54M). He can play inside or out, so if Trice developed into an effective boundary corner they could've moved Reed inside next year. There's a difference between assembling a roster and managing position holes.

    I understand the business side behind what Khan appears to be doing. But while his decisions may return good value, lending value too much weight leads to inconsistencies between talent and system. A good player isn't always a good fit, as we've seen the Steelers experience firsthand. Still, this offseason has left my mind numbed with respect to what it is they want their identity to be.

    After another disappointing finish last season (on top of the eight year drought in playoff victories, they've lost three or more games in a row post-Thanksgiving in four of the last seven seasons), we heard about "big changes" on the way. Yet we've seen virtually no changes to the coaching staff, and outside of the Metcalf trade the roster changes have been mostly short-term spot-fills and depth additions. Not much in the way of substantive change.
     
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  5. OB1

    OB1 Well-Known Member

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    Steelers only care about winning 9 seasons every upcoming season, and keep stadium sold out by having a few "Watt" type players.

    Think if that's your primary objective, what would you do?
     
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  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Word from the beat writers is the Rodgers pursuit is being driven by Tomlin. Thats probably why they didnt make more of an attempt at Fields and Darnold.

    Tomlin wants his guy.
     
  7. forgotten1

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    Really?
    What does he know?

    THE GUY DIDN'T EVEN WANT BEN.
     
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  8. Mashburn

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    Right now threw just not a qb that was worth it in free agency. The only one I saw that was actually better was geno Smith.
     
  9. Mashburn

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    Darnold and fields are meh as well.
     
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  10. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    I don't mean just get a QB. I mean when you know the one you want, do whatever it takes to get that one. I don't know if teams actually think like that. That's just my own opinion.
     
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  11. jeh1856

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    And we might
     
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  12. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, they only care about winning 9 games a year. So, they traded a 2nd for Metcalf and gave him a $150 million deal just to win 9 games :facepalm:.
     
  13. OB1

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    Do u think they’ll win a SB cause they signed metcalf? Lol

    :facepalm:
     
  14. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    That wasn't my point they made the trade because they're trying to compete and not just tank for a draft pick.
     
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  15. RipTydz

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    My problem with the Metcalf trade is that they gave up a 2nd round pick and gave him a huge contract when we have no franchise QB. Like why would you do that at the WR position when were arent ready to compete. We have no identity on offense. Arthur Smith is known for his rushing attack type of offense and now we have two stud WRs and no QB. Pickens is due for a big contract next year and you have a TJ Watt on the wrong side of 30 wanting a new contract. Unfortunately they aren't rebuilding when they should be because we have a lot of holes to fill and no legit QB in place.
     
  16. OB1

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    I didn’t say tank. I said get 9 wins (compete to keep tomlin streak of mediocrity alive).
     
  17. Brice

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    Because you want to attract a QB to your team. Without DK on the roster, do you really think the Steelers would have had a chance to even talk to Aaron Rodgers?
     
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  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Bed time

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    He can’t understand your point

    The rest of us did
     
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  19. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Bed time

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    :facepalm:
     
  20. jeh1856

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    :facepalm::facepalm:
     
  21. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    They are sort of trying to compete right now, but they’re also trying to stockpile draft picks for 2026 which is why we’re mainly signing players who were released and won’t affect the comp pick formula.

    My sad prediction is that the balancing act in trying to compete right now and save resources for the future at the same time is going to fail and we’re in for a lengthy continuation of 9-10 win seasons and either missing the playoffs or being roasted in the WC round. We haven’t acquired what we need to have a legit chance this year, but we’ll be good enough to not have enough draft capital next year to make an aggressive move for a top QB prospect. Steeler fan purgatory.
     
  22. Vox Ferrum

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    This has been in the back of my thoughts when they met on the sidelines when he was still with GB, but knowing he was on the way out. Not saying there was a Ill get you someday thing, but come on man, no team wants this guy except MT, just baffling.
     
  23. Vox Ferrum

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    There is a difference in accepting that you need a Change of philosophy, make moves in that direction to build a team, recognizing the blood and pain it will take to get there. Build your team so when you draft/get a young QB you can compete and learn, lose along the way, but hopefully see the build open that window to really have an opportunity, this is not tanking, it is a continual approach.

    The trade itself may have been done with that in mind. But trading picks, filling holes with one year rentals, then going after a 42 yo to compete is the reality we live in, getting to the dance and winning a game is the goal..then we can build more from there...problem is we never get there, and if we did the future is bleak because we have to rebuild again. The CAP is the dame for everyone, the draft is the same, FA is the same. Our approach the last decade has brought the same results. Time to change.
     
  24. steelersrule6

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    You're a fool if you think the organization is worried about Tomlin's streak of non-losing seasons :facepalm:.
     
  25. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I don't have a problem with them not paying like $20 million for some of those guys on the DL in free agency, but I wanted them to sign one of those better CBs in free agency.
     

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