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Congrats Najee Harris

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Dec 25, 2024.

  1. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I saw that warren had limited practice participation this week,
    Yea he can carry the ball 20 times a game consistently. Lol
     
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  2. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    You posted this a week ago so what did you forget in that time period

    Ok I know it’s a trick question because you can’t remember

    :dontknow:
     
  3. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    How exciting

    That puts him firmly behind Warren for those two years but also Patterson for this year
     
  4. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I acknowledged that Wilson should have seen that Pickens failed to run his route and taken the check down to Warren, but It is not a copout to acknowledge that Pickens screwed up that play from the jump. It is laughable to claim that Pickens wasn't there because he got jammed at the line. He cut the route off short because he pulls crap like that when a play isn't designed for him to be the primary target. He has been doing it since his rookie season and that was a more recent example.

    The truth about Wilson is somewhere between those who still think he is a top quarterback and your take, which seems to be that he stinks. Talk all you want about what a few fanboys on social media are claiming, but the Steelers got better the moment he became the starter and likely aren't headed for the playoffs if they had stuck with Fields. The fact remains that Wilson is likely still going to get paid like a starter, if not like an elite one, after this season.

    Cousins is a good example of how desperate general managers can be when pursuing a quarterback, but I'm not sure he works as a cautionary tale for Darnold. They are very different players at very different points in their careers. He is 36 and coming off a major injury. Darnold will be 28 and coming off a fantastic and healthy season. I don't know that he would get seven years, but five or six at a big number with an out after four seems likely.
     
  5. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I see someone thinks it makes sense to compare the average of a feature back on 251 carries to a specialty backup's 31 carries. lol
     
  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Darnold has had a good season but he's working with a top 5 duo at WR, and a good play caller in O'Connell.
     
  7. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/60...ce=dailyemail&campaign=601983&userId=11964319

    "Neither Warren nor Harris has been particularly efficient on early downs. Harris averages 4.1 yards per carry on first and second down, and Warren is only marginally better at 4.2. Third down is the biggest reason Warren has a better overall average, as he averages 6.0 yards per carry."

    Now figure in that Harris is more durable and less likely to fumble and you see why he is still the starter over Warren.
     
  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Joe Burrow has two elite receivers and a good play caller, too. He has had that since the Bengals took Chase in the draft before his second season. Should we dismiss him, too?

    Quarterbacks don't succeed or fail on their own. Darnold was drafted into a bad situation and things were no better in Carolina. Last season as a backup on San Francisco was the first time he wasn't surrounded by a **** show, but he barely got to play. He isn't a sure thing, but he would be a far better option than Wilson or Fields and it is silly to argue that he might come cheaply.
     
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  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Big difference is that Burrow isn't a one year wonder like Darnold is.
     
  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    It's a lot of easier to run the ball on third downs in passing situations, you sound like a fool for even mentioning Patterson :facepalm:.
     
  11. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    You argued that Darnold is a product of having two studs at receiver and a good play-caller. The same argument could be made for Burrow. The quarterback still has to read the defenses and make the throws. Darnold is doing that.

    Don't get me wrong. You could make an argument that Burrow is the best quarterback in the NFL and he is certainly better than Darnold, but anybody claiming that they know if Darnold is a one-year wonder or an extremely talented guy who finally blossomed when given his first opportunity to start for a team that isn't a complete **** show is kidding themselves.
     
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  12. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Blah blah blah
     
  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Translation: you don't know what the heck you're talking about as usual :hehehe:
     
  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    Amazing 6 million people on the planet and one of the two already disagreed with this post
     
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  15. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I can't imagine how anyone isn't persuaded by such an articulate and well-constructed argument.
     
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  16. bleednblackngold

    bleednblackngold Well-Known Member

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    You know what would help him get more carries? Get past the damned 1st yard marker, and there are 3 more plays available.

    No one makes more nice 5 yard runs when you need 6 than Najee.
     
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  17. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Just chilling

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    And if he got 20 carries a game you would whine they are running the wheels off
     
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  18. mikeyg

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    that is about all you usually get from him :facepalm:

    that and personal insults.

    there is just is not much there......
     
  19. forgotten1

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    FIFYV
     
  20. RobertoC#21

    RobertoC#21 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldnt call Najee below average....I would however call our Offensive coordinators below average and our offensive line coach and line below average. So Najee getting 1000 yards in spite of the odds stacked against him is really impressive. To think otherwise is not understanding the game at all. I hear all the talk about Warren being better but the truth is he is being put in better position to succeed. Yes he looks flashy and great, but the truth is he is not a bell cow back no matter what you may believe.
     
  21. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Warren is very good at being a change of pace back but he doesn't have the size or the durability to be a workhorse back. After Harris leaves at the end of the season, the Steelers will still need to get a back that can tote the ball 15-18 times a game.
     
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  22. mytake

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    Can I agree and disagree at the same time?
     
  23. mytake

    mytake Well-Known Member

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    What Roman numeral is this? The date when Roman Wilson returns from the IR?
     
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  24. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    yeah no
     
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  25. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    It is a copout, Wilson is in there because thats the type of mistake they are afraid Fields would make.

    I’ll have to watch the play again, I thought he was jammed and lost his footing. I did say “IIRC”. Regardless though it’s Wilsons fault. He’s thrown several bad picks now, really bad, seasoned vet can’t make dumb throws like he is making not to mention all the sacks he’s taking.

    They were 4-2 with Fields, they’d likely be in the same boat as they are now since Wilson is making the same mistakes that you kill Fields for. They’d also have a better idea of the QB situation going into next season.
     

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