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Colon moving to LG

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Cbus Steelers, May 16, 2012.

  1. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    Last few years:
    #2 pck Adams - LT
    Veteran Colon finally moved - LG
    #1 Pck Pro Bowler Pouncey - C
    #1 Pick Future all pro DeCastro - RG
    #2 Marcus Gilbert - RT

    Kugler - New OL coach
    Haley - New OC

    Beefing up and revamping the offense around a 30 yr old Ben, you think?
     
  2. BobbyBiz

    BobbyBiz Well-Known Member

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    I do like the looks of that.

    :applaud:
     
  3. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Elizabeth Taylor

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    Except Kugler is not a new OL coach.
     
  4. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    if these guys pick up the offense together,rookies and vets, it could be a little easier transition for all of them. there will be mistakes early this year and hopefully these coaches can iron them out. everyone will have to learn on the fly. :cool:
     
  5. gpguy

    gpguy Well-Known Member

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    Too bad they didnt do this "beefing up" a few years sooner!
     
  6. winggin

    winggin Well-Blitzed Member

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    you look at this line and the high draft picks we used to build it and you just have to smile.
     
  7. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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  8. steelers5859

    steelers5859 Well-Known Member

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    Well, we better hope Adams solidifies the LT position from the start. Because behind him is J. Scott and T. Essex. And from their body of work we would be in serious trouble.
    What would be plan B?

    Gilbert, DeCastro, Pouncey, Foster, Colon.
     
  9. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    absolutely. gilbert is the swing LT. with colon or essex or scott being able to play RT then. they may leave colon at G while he's learning. scott or essex can play RT. they would be the 3rd and 4th LT's if it came to that. i'll bet no other team in the NFL would have that kind of vet talent that far down the line. their body of work isn't near as bad as you make it out to be. they have had some decent games for us. scott was also hurt most of camp and into the season. he would just be a little expensive as the 3rd or 4th option. foster can play RT in a pinch too. no need for max at all. gilbert will get time at LT this preseason. just to get familiar. :cool:
     
  10. steelers5859

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    Max, IF HEALTHY, I think is better than any LT we have on our roster. But only if he's COMPLETELY healthy. Scott or essex can probably hold down the RT position but what they showed last year at the position leaves alot to be desired.
     
  11. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    The key to the sweetness of this line is quite simply_Mike Adams. This is the gamble, how fitting that it comes off the gamble of taking him after he approached them for a job.

    Are all the pieces finally fitting together?
     
  12. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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  13. ivanarevalo07

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    How can you say that without watching Adams play? And there is NO CHANCE he'll be healthy in time for training camp. Some suggest he won't be able to be ready until week 1 of the regular season, no way the front office waits for him. Adams is our starter day one, no point in fighting it, it's his job to lose at this point.
     
  14. TheSteelHurtin2188

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    Yeah like max said in hi interview this wouldn't be like last year due to the new playbook. Ben said it I 90% different. How true that is I don't know but it will certanly be harder to just step right into. Starks won't be back.
     
  15. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i agree. we were playing with backups for the last few years. starks included. pouncey started it off. then a little lull again. then gilbert started and gave a glimps of how much better it could be. then WHAMMO!!!!!! they hit us with 3 more talents. thanks for your time here and what you all accomplished. 2 SB's. 1-1 in them.

    then the most sacks in history for consecutive years. the longevity you took out of our franchise qb. the RB's that took a lickin and kept on ticking when there wasen't even a crease to run through. the first and goals from the one that got stuffed. the games our LT's looked like they had never seen a football before. are we really gonna miss that? was it really just a bad game or two? this new batch will eventually show what we have been missing. :cool:
     
  16. steelers5859

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    A COMPLETELY healthy Max Starks or a rookie in Mike Adams? Based on Starks performance against top tier talent and Mike Adams against college players, that is why I can say that.

    Now, I hope and pray that Adams comes in and plays light out and Starks can be an afterthought. Or maybe a very good backup in case of injuries.
     
  17. mac daddyo

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    we're not going to get a completely healthy starks anymore. he's had alot of injuries over the years. neck,shoulder,back,knees a couple of times. 30 years old. lots of weight. there's a reason no other teams have attempted to sign max. he was marginal to start with. max is past his starting usefulness and he's not a good run blocker. we also have a new offense he doesn't know. i think they will go with what they have for now. hopefully essex will push adams with his new found dedication. if essex comes in around 320, he will be much better on the left side then he has been for a few years. he's always been a good run blocker. his added quickness should help his game tremendously. he already has the know how. :cool:
     
  18. numbah58

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    Trai Essex is a servicable and extremely versatile b/u. In that role I believe he has good value. However, as a starter his value drops significantly. The value drops even further as a starting LT. If he starts at LT while Adams sits on the bench I'll heave.
     
  19. ivanarevalo07

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    Starks performance against top tier talent? Did you watch the 49ers game last year? Aldon Smith (one year removed from being a "college player") completely DESTROYED a COMPLETELY healthy Starks. In college Adams held his own against players like J.J. Watt and Ryan Kerrigan so he's no stranger to top tier talent either. Rookies come in do well the NFL all the time. Look no further than what Pouncey and Gilbert did in their rookie years. We need Adams to come in and step up big this year. Only thing that has people worried is that it's a very important position, but he can't be worse than Jonathan Scott, who was our starter week 1 last year. Starks is NOT going to be completely healthy (by his own admission) until after OTA's, training camp, and the preseason. The only way the front office even contacts Starks is if we get bit by the injury bug again this year and I pray that doesn't happen.
     
  20. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    i don't in any way think essex starts. adams will start. i'm saying as a backup. backups are usually not as good as the starter. that's why they are backups. i think essex is going to suprise a little. if he's in shape, which he is, and down in weight, which he is, he should be able to sieze the backup spot if adams gets hurt. essex is only in his 7th or 8th year, by no means washed up. he doesn't have any mileage. losing fat, and toning himself up has got to help his game alot. his football life here was in jeapordy last year, the light went on. no, he wasen't a good LT backup at 350, but at 320 essex could be a decent backup. essex has looked decent at LT at times in relief, just not since he swelled. that's done though. :cool:
     

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