Chase Young

What in the world makes you think he would be a one year rental

 

Why would Highsmith who had 14.5 sacks last season, have his snaps reduced for a guy who has 1.5 sacks the last two seasons ?

 

I think it would be dumb to give up a good draft pick for him, and he has been unproductive and cost over 5 million in 2023, people just assume he can play OLB after being a 4/3 DE.

 

Young could possibly be a one year rental because he's in the last year of his rookie deal, if the Steelers acquired him and he wasn't productive, he most likely won't be back in 2024.

 

He would likely get paid more and play more in an open market (Assuming Highsmith deal gets done). Why would he come here to be the #3 when he would easily be a top 2 option on a good number of teams? We probably only get him as a one year rental unless Highsmith is for sure gone. I don't see it happening.

He may not have any say in where he gets traded, but he doesn't have to sign.

 

True, but again... we are VERY unlikely to have him more than one year. There is zero reason for him to sign a long term deal for back up money. None. He is better off signing a one or two year deal with a different team where he would start and hope to be healthy and produce in order to win a much bigger deal long term. There are plenty of teams looking for edge rushers, and few actual good edge rushers in the league. If he can stay healthy, there is a ceiling there that doesn't exist with other guys available. This is a 24 year old former rookie of the year, not a 28 year old perennial 4-5 sack a year guy. It only takes one team to give him a shot.

I'd love to get good players on horrendously team friendly deals. Those don't happen too often, and I don't think this is how its going to play out. Lots of wishful thinking.

 

Or he could go to a team that he would start, stay healthy, and actually produce again. In that instance he would be worth north of 10 million a year on the open market.

No reason for him to come to Pittsburgh and sign long term. He'd probably hate being #3 in a contract year and go off and sign a one year deal with a team that is hurting for pass rushers to try to cash in again. There is 0 scenarios where Chase Young becomes a Steeler and signs long term back up money. Unless he's an idiot. There's that scenario I guess.

 

3rd round pick is not a good draft pick.

Again the odds of a 3rd rounder are low. with Young, it would be a coin flip. And we know what his ceiling could be.

So I guess I need to prove it to you how bad a 3rd round pick can be...



1. Chris hope
2. Max Starks (but not a pro bowler)
3. Mike wallace
4. Emanuel sanders
5. Sean spence... meh and no pro bowl

3 out of 17 were worthy. With 2 of them to just being good.

However 12 of them were junk.

5/17 is not even a 30% odds
3/17 is 17%

At least with young we know it's a 50% chance. And Wyeth only 5 million. That's worth making the trade for.

 

Well since you're so hyped on that 1.5 sacks. Then you need to learn that he only started in 2 games.

 

Disagree. No one is looking at him to start. If they are, they're an idiot. Because of they're just going to throw him back in, they're asking for more odds of a season ending injury.

 

7 of those Guys helped Get us to one , or more SBs.

 

For me, Kahn has shown to be a bit more aggressive early on than Colbert was when he started back in 2000. I understand that Colbert himself was no pacifist when it came to trades himself but I don't remember Colbert being nearly as active in one Offseason in the vein that Kahn has been. In addition, Kahn is also well in line with the modern practice of handling player contracts in the NFL; both Cris Boswell and Minkah Fitzpatrick having their deals done before Training Camp. I expect Alex Highsmith to get the same.



All this said, I have been more vocal about Isaiah Simmons than Chase Young as the need is far greater imo. Other than Cole Holcomb.... who else is as athletic?! Not many other proven options there. Simmons has been and, in the right system, can blossom into that impact player so many thought he could be coming out of Clemson (myself doubly so).

 

Don't make me roll my eyes. And literally post their stats. And include their bench warming techniques. As well how they did after us.

So being on a team that gets a ring is 100% irrelevant in this conversation of a single player.

 

May I ask you if Isaiah Simmons would be worth acquiring?! Very curious as I have been following your commentary on Chase Young for a while.

 

Not eye Rolling. What. So T. Essex, Max Starks, Chris Hope, E. Sanders,M. Wallace, K. Lewis, M. Spaeth....had nothing to do with us winning??? They contributed nothing???
What they did elsewhere is irrelevant. It's what they did here.

 

My only thing is ILB. But can he play outside?

 

He cannot. Isaiah is a ILB currently but a ILB who's playmaking potential and athletic promise don't come around very often. Regardless though, no.. he cannot play on the EDGE in a high volume role.


However, I assume you are in the camp that Nick Herbig makes the move to ILB then?! If that is the case, then I would agree on the notion that Chase Young makes more sense. Given how Markus Golden is not going to get any younger, adding Chase would assist.


I do agree with @Blast Furnace in the sense that if the Steelers find a way to make it work, they will see to it that it will. Hell, even I was caught off guard when they traded a First Round Pick for Minkah Fitzpatrick; something that spelled the beginning of the end for Terrell Edmunds as I had predicated the second it did. For that matter, if there is one aspect that does work in Pittsburgh's favor, it is Chase's Fifth Year Option that has not been picked up yet. If Pittsburgh were to make this happen, then perhaps the likes of Watt, Highsmith and Young all can be Steelers For Life.



.... I am just not 100% that would be the correct financial decision given Pittsburgh's other upcoming needs. As Blast said though, given how Kenny is still on his rookie contract...?! To hell with it.



Take the gamble... but as @steelersrule6 points out... only if the gamble itself is worth betting on.

 

Again I will say, team sport. But then again some think Jon Gruden was an amazing coach for his Ring, without realizing what was handed to him.

Or are you literally going to say you were wanting to sign Limas Sweed to a contract over 10 million a year?





So post some pro bowl, great stats, then we can talk. Heck I'm even gone if they did it with another team after us.

 

I hope the best for Herbig. But I'm a realist and know the odds.

Also I'll say if Young was wanting a 3 year 21 million, I would tell him to go take a hike. But a single year of 5 million or a 2 year of 10 million, I'm fine with that gamble.

Also In the nfl today. Anything under 7 million is not for an impressive player anymore.

 

I don't believe even Young would tell either AR 2 or Kahn he would command that amount for he needs to go earn that amount in a prove it year. Another major aspect why I did pose that question though to you stems from who Chase Young is. Remember, Chase Young will forever be the number two overall pick from the 2020 Draft Class. Hindsight can easily be used here but Chase Young did perform well enough to earn that Draft Slot as he was either projected to go First Overall to within the Top Three Picks at the time. Add in his accomplishments at Ohio State and one can already understand that Chase is a very proud man; rightfully so for he had earned his accolades.


I don't believe him being used as a rotational piece would be something he elects to agree upon if he is to showcase his skills. If I am Chase, I would want to prove myself in a prove it year as much as possible with as many snaps as possible. Anything that undermines that hinders his ability to be compensated.

 

Well You lick the sweat off of L. Bell....what did He do after He left????(LoL I made myself laugh)
I'm telling You if You watched those Guys I name....they had been contributors to getting us a SB....some to more than one.

 

A trade would not be made without him agreeing prior

And most likely a contract extension would also be agreed upon

 

If Chase Young could return to his rookie year performance then yes he would be a steal to get for a 3rd round pick. The Steelers were 11-0 in 2020 going against Washington and came out of the game 11-1. A big reason for that was Young, he was probably the best player on the field that night.

 

They don't have to have him agree to where he is traded? I'm sure they would consult him to a degree if their intention is truly what is best for Young, but its a business and if someone is willing to give them more capital than another.... then that's where he is going.

A sign and trade would be fine, but if I am him I wouldn't agree to sign long term with a team that isn't going to start me period. I'd refuse to sign to go to the Steelers long term. There is too much money on the table for his career for him to sign his future to a career back up simply because he was injured the two seasons after winning DROY. If I am in the Chase Young camp its starting role or starting money. That's what gets the deal done long term. Otherwise, play out the season and find a rusher needy team to try to ball out on for a year and get paid the year after.

 

There's plenty of teams that would look to him to be a starter... The Bears just switched from 3-4 to 4-3 and had 20 sacks all of last season. The Bears, Bengals, Bills, Browns, and Panthers all run a 4-3 defense and had 40 or less sacks. Those would be excellent places to start looking.

We run a 3-4 and have the best pass rusher in the league and a guy opposite him coming off a 14.5 sack season. It's not the right place for him schematically or monetarily. He needs to be somewhere else if he wants to maximize his earning potential. He's the CEO of his own brand... a long term deal for under 8 million a year would be a head scratcher (no matter how good it would be for the Steelers to have that happen)