Canada News/Thursday

I'm not buying this news myself, and unsure how Thursday makes any more sense than say today or yesterday, but here we are.

 

Just speculation on the day it could happen, if it were to happen.

If Biden were to step down as president, I feel it could also happen on a Thursday.

 

What a ridiculous statement. Not claiming that anything is going to happen, but if it does, it will be Thursday. So when Canada isn't fired on thursday, this idiot is still right lol

 

Fair enough... I tend to think they'll pull his play-calling responsibilities and give them to Sulliven, and nobody on the outside even has a clue it happened until after the season.

 

That's what I'm thinking.

 

I would prefer that if Biden steps down and we have a choice as to what day he steps down, that it would be YESTERDAY!!!

 

Oh boy look what I started. Lol

 

eek

 

Maybe we could try to stick to FOOTBALL.....anyway, I will be the happiest person on the planet if Canada is let go on Thursday - or any day for that matter.

 

IMO, Canada Dry will be gone at seasons end. Even if they replaced him now not much will change for this season. Although some might say that getting rid of him now would be a smart move so new guy can get accustomed with the organization for next season.

 

I want Canada shown the door as much as anyone but what if Sullivan says he doesn't want the job and to just stay as the QB's coach? Maybe that's in play.

It's a friggin mess for sure. To late to bring in someone? I feel they wait it out and can him at the end of the season at this point unfortunately.

 

Please, please, please!

 

Players are eluding to that he sucks , former players saying he is crap, pundits talking about how bad he is plus add in the rumors of trouble in the locker room ... The Team may just shoot a hostage ? He should have been gone weeks ago...

Our Offense is so bad we should take 5 plays from our scout Team Offenses from each game and make that the new playbook until we can hire a real OC ..

 

Are they actually off for 3 days?

 

Who is best OC available if a change is made?

 

Of course they are. It doesn't take long to study the 10 plays that's in the playbook

 

This is from Ron Cook of the PPG. I think he sums up Canada very well.
It is easy and appropriate to put much of the blame on Matt Canada and scream for him to be replaced as play caller. He joined the Steelers with no NFL experience and has failed in his 1 ½ seasons as offensive coordinator with four different quarterbacks, from Hall of Famer-to-be Roethlisberger to raw rookie Pickett, with journeymen Mason Rudolph and Mitch Trubisky in between. The Steelers haven’t scored more than 20 points in 17 of their 26 games with him as play caller. Quarterbacks coach Mike Sullivan, who has NFL experience as a coordinator, can’t possibly be worse.

“Something’s got to change,” Pickett said of the offense in general, not necessarily of Canada in particular. “It’s insane to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect something different. We’ve been having these problems all year. That has to get changed. That has to get fixed.”

He also mention Tomlin. I think he's spot on with this analysis.

But the Steelers’ problems go above and beyond Canada.

They start at the top with Tomlin.

For the first time in his 15 ½ seasons, I’m wondering if Tomlin is capable of making things right.

No less than Bill Cowher criticized Tomlin for the way he has handled Pickett.

Tomlin’s original plan was to go with Trubisky and allow Pickett to learn the NFL game by watching. But Tomlin surprisingly changed his mind at halftime of the game against the New York Jets on Oct. 2 and benched Trubisky for Pickett. The results have not been good. Pickett has attempted 165 passes — a ridiculously high number — and thrown for two touchdowns and eight interceptions in that half against the Jets and in his subsequent four starts. His passer rating is 66.8. He played his worst game against the Eagles and took a beating in the process. He was sacked six times and hit 11 other times.

He puts the blame pretty much where it belongs. Square on Tomlin's shoulders. If Matt Canada remains the Steelers OC after the bye then Tomlin is at fault. This whole mess is just disastrous. Last night an injury depleted Browns team beat the Bengals. How did that happen? Am I to believe that the Browns coaching staff is that good? I have no answers. I wish I did. But this season is a disaster and looks to not getting any better. Pickett is a turnover machine.

As you can see Pickett's passer rating is 66.8. That's not getting it done. So I guess the madness continues on a dysfunctional team. Sad.

 

Why would it happen on Thursday? The team practices today and tomorrow, right? Why wait? If you’re going to make a change, make it… There’s no benefit to putting it off.

 

I'm sure someone will correct me here if I'm wrong but league rules say on a bye week they must have 3 days off with no football. So the typical Wednesday presser is moved back and Thursday would be the 1st day football related business can happen. I can't think that 3 days of soul searching would change anything about Canada getting canned so I read it as no change will be made.

 

During an appearance on 93.7 The Fan, Steelers' insider Jeff Hathorn theorized that the firing of Canada wouldn't happen until Thursday of this week. At that point, all players have left the building and there is no more media access for the remainder of the week.

 

Half a dozen people on here THINK they are.

 

I am puzzled on the "Thursday" thing too... they usually happen first thing Monday or early Tuesday is there is a conversation.
I don't think I've ever seen one on a Thursday... unless it was like an all-out disagreement.

 

As much as I don't like Canada (I think he was under qualified to start with and show's he doesn't belong in the NFL every week)...there is not a firing or one specific change that's going to change this teams overall trajectory. Do I think someone else should call plays? Yes. Will the offensive play menu change mid-season? No.

If you want some good perspective on what this team is going through I'd give a listen to the Arthur Moates podcast. He's able to articulate from a player point of view where a lot of the issues stem from. Yes you can put some of the deficiencies on coaching etc...and he admits Canada is likely in over his head. it's convenient and easy to just point to a coach as a problem rather than uncover the nuanced and harder to identify issues to correct. Fans don't have the insight to truly get to the crux of a problem at the professional level.

But the point most recently that he made is that the games would unfold differently if the players were more buttoned up and accountable to themselves (regardless of offensive/defensive scheme) - pre snap penalties, not being on the same page with each other etc. Yes, you can say some of this falls on coaching...but there is only so much a coach can do to get a player to study, communicate, etc. The point Moates makes is these players are professionals. At this level it is not the coaches job to tell you...or make sure your studying...or having group study (what Pickett mentioned in his presser) and communicating with your position groups and to your Offensive or defensive teammates so you're all seeing the same things. The best they can do is at some point hit their pockets...but with a young team it's likely less about want to and more about still developing as a professional. He goes on that at this level everyone is big/fast/strong. What creates wins and losses is how professionally committed players are to studying, understanding, and sharing that learned info each week among their piers. That is literally your job as a professional football player. Like any other job...you have those who are 100% committed and those who are just there to get a pay check...and all variations in between.

In the end, what his player eye is seeing is more communication and detail issues than scheme (again..noting the O play calling isn't great). These gaffs are creating more challenging field position issues, down and distance issues, and lack of eye discipline which is resulting in limited opportunities to find consistent success on either side of the ball. Couple that with the fact that we are limited in talent and experience at key positions to overcome challenges...then you get what we've been watching.

 

I don’t put any credence into anything Fillipponi says

 

I agree a lot.
Firing Canada will not solve anything this season other than - Accountability. He failed.
The offense is still not going to run the rock any better.
The play calls may change, and they may reduce the pressure on Kenny, but it is the same players.

Aurthur is a good guy, I like him a lot. I also like Ron Cook.
I am always careful about blaming the coaches too much and do not subscribe to the torches and lynching mobs.
But I am also not an apologist.

My list of Tomlin shortcomings goes like:
- He is loyal to his staff, too loyal.
- I like the idea of promoting from within, but you have to have new faces and new ideas.
- Some thought Canada might be worth a risk but it is now apparent that he's in over his head. You have to be able to admit a fail.
- As someone pointed out, you can increase your staff. Ariens came to Tampa, he had a staff almost as large as the roster (it's a joke) because he needs to implement change. That's not a bad idea.

The players do police themselves. I remember Green and Lambert setting a young hotshot straight.
There's absolutely some onus on the players.