Can Jason Worilds make the leap if we release Silverback?

Booyah! This is exactly what I was thinking! He was out there getting better every game and paying the price in pain after the fact. He was bringing it every game! Yes, he was beat in coverage, that's not what you ask you pass rushing OLB's to do and expect to get away with it on a consistent basis!

 

Its just not an age thing...its a money thing...like it has been with a number of these older/bigger money guys over the last couple years. While Woodley is making a good chunk of money...he's one of the restructure candidates and in reality isnt an option to be cut because of his contract (plus his age helps him too).

 

Exactly what I was going to say too Jack...Harrison wasn't as good at pass coverage this past year...its been declining little by little...kinda like Farrior.

 

You might as well stop saying it cause Woodley's not going anywhere nor should he. Somebody help me out as I don't have the numbers in front of me, but if we cut Woodley it could actually hurt us more with the cap. He's the best OLB on the team, he's just having some bad luck with some injuries. If he's gets in better shape this offseason and dumps the injury bug he'll be a beast again. Besides if we cut him who are we replacing him with? Answer me that.

 

Mac and Shadow I am on point with.

I would try work overtime to trade Woodley, restructure Harrison and give Worilds the job. Draft an OLB.

Woodleys fame and dough has gone to his head which has contributed to his lack of conditioning and being off injured. And lack of production. And the cap hit is a killer.

Another cap killer is Ike "Toast" Taylor. 9.4 and change. Really. If Keenan Lewis is signed maybe they release him.

 

CK 13. I disagree about Ike. Remember he always has the other team's best receiver. You may not be old enough to remember, Rod Woodson also got burnt at least once a game long

 

one thing nobody talks about is justin king being brought in. where does he fit in all this? he's got a 715,000 payday and cap hit. do we sign lewis or is it all just talk? maybe ike does go and we go with king and allen as the starters. allen and brown cost around 500,000 each. to bring king in as a backup at that rate just doesn't seem right if we want to keep ike or lewis.

 

I'm interested to see what they do with DVD. He has huge potential with that speed.

 

Go with King and Allen? Talk about unproven. We've seen some glimpses from Allen, but King has been nothing more than a journeyman albeit a fast one at this point.

 

Harrison is not a leader. He's as selfish a player as the Steelers have ever had on their roster.

 

First let me state that I agree that these players you mentioned
are making large amounts of money, whether it is deserved? The thing is Mac nobody held
a gun to the Rooney's head when they offered these salaries to these players.
Are we getting the bang for the buck, I have my doubts on some of them. But
this is the world we live in.

 

I COULD NOT DISAGREE ANYMORE!!!! James is Definitely on the back side of his career. But, He played on a Bum knee for 1/2 the season. James is still a beast and played alot better in the last couple games. If that knee is healed up to start 2013 there is no comparison between the two....Hell going by last years play you would be better off starting Worilds opposite Deebo for Woodley![/QUOTE]

Harrison is more than on the back side of his career. He has been non-existent for most of the past three seasons. A beast? Not hardly. Don't be fooled by his big talk and photos with guns. If Harrison is a "BEAST" then how did he get so easily erased in Super Bowl XLV? One tackle for James, a sack. No impact in that game AT ALL. How about ZERO sacks and not a single QB hit in the 2010 AFC Title game? How about two tackles and ZERO SACKS in the 2011 playoff vs Denver? That's ONE SACK in his past 12 quarters of post-season football. You're clinging to the guy's ferocious reputation and not looking at the facts. And these are numbers going back 2-3 seasons. The guy isn't getting YOUNGER. He's getting OLDER and coming back from a knee injury. He is done.

 

he's second to ike in salary. what's the angle with him? just a backup for that kind of money? vandyke is fast to with some nfl starts. i'm just not sure how he fits and if he's not here as a cheaper replacement for someone. we are in trouble money wise.

 

Coastal Steeler, with all due respect, I was at a game in Three Rivers where they held Barry Sanders to 46 yards, ODunghead broke his thumb, and oh yea, Rod Wooson was lost with a knee injury. If memory serves right, Woodson came back in the Super Bowl game. And O'Dunghead threw it away.

To compair Ike "Toast" Taylor with Hall of Famer Rod Woodson is just mind boggling.


Let's roll tape, set the scene, Denver Colorado, playoffs, Tim Teblow behind center. Ike Taylor was exploited to the highest power against a guy who might be out of the league this season. Best reciever? Well he was a large part of why the Steelers didn't move on.

When you mention the top CB's in the league, sorry, Ike Taylor's name doesn't come up. Hopefully they sign Keenan Lewis.

 

Seems like just a little cherry picking going on there. We all know when the low point of Ike's career was. That doesn't change the fact that he is a major stud in this defense for 8 or 9 out of 10 games, and has always had a higher degree of difficulty than Keenan Lewis.

 

CK you don't need the due respect. Your just saying you are as old as me LOL. I still like Ike. The whole team sucked in Denver last year

 

But the other players feed off him, except for Woodley bc hes never out there. He was awesome till he got paid and been fat and lazy since. This is the worst set of 'next in line' linebacker the Steelers have had in a long time. Worilds is avg at best, hes not an elite LB. To cut James H, would be a mistake. People are looking at an injured 2012 James, not a healthy one.

We've lost Foote too. Even though he had slowed down, he actually play well this year.

 

What do you base this on? Remember, we've had some pretty selfish players over the years, Neil O'Donnel, Mike Wallace, etc.

 

1. After the SB XLIII win, he refused to go to the White House, claiming, "If you (President) want to see the Steelers, invite us when we don't win the Super Bowl."
2. The constant criticisms of Goodell escaalted when he said he wouldn't pee on Goodell if he were on fire. (He should have been released fom the team immediately following publication of this article.)
3. Criticisms of Ben's performnce in SB XLV, in same article. Because, as we know, his own performance was stellar.
4. Inability--or unwillingness--to accept respeonsibility for his on-field play and subsequent hits to the head.

These are just off the top of my head. Now, any ONE of these things wouldn't be a big deal. But cumulatively, you see a guy who's either really dumb or simply uncaring about the uniform he puts on and how his words/actions reflect poorly on the team. The Steelers have almost always had a guy who stirs the pot, from lambert to lloyd to Joey. But Harrison goes beyond all.

 

Ike struggled early in his career and has had lapses, but overall he's a very good corner. I would say he's just inside top 10 in the league.

The play you're talking about wasn't completely Ike's fault. We didn't respect Tebow at all, so we played press man coverage and left Ike on an island, and dared Tebow to beat us, and he did. Sure Ike didn't make the play but that's a tough play to make... and it's why you wouldn't call that scheme against most NFL quarterbacks.

Not only is Ike a great cover corner, but he's a shining example of what you want as a leader. He works his ass off in the offseason and invites more young guys to come work with him every year... Hell people have been clamoring for Woodley to go work with Ike because they know he'd get him in shape.

 

Well said TE

 

If Harrison can stay healthy it would be good for the team to bring him back.

But looking at his injury history it seems like one wrong hit and he could get sidelined again for a long time. I'm wary of his bad back...

This isn't like Kevin Greene who didn't really have a major injury history at all.

 

The ideal solution for James IMO is to get him to take a pay cut for an extra year on the roster basically splitting his current cap hit between this coming season and next coming season. That would allow for a couple of things:

1. Find out what Worilds really has in him.
2. Find out more about Carter and Robinson.
3. Find out if Woodley is going to commit to getting back to dominant by losing weight.
4. Potentially draft a stud replacement either this coming draft or next.