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Can any WR get open?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by DDinAZsteel1, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:07 PM.

  1. DDinAZsteel1

    DDinAZsteel1 Well-Known Member

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    AB gets doubled or tripled nearly every play yet Ben forces the ball in there (the last pik 6 SUnday...the replays from field level I saw...what Ben saw.....absurd he threw that). Yet no other WR's are even remotely open? How is that possible? All terrible route runners? it can't be speed cuz my man Hines was not a fast fellow and got open ALL DAY.....I just don't get it. Definitely part Ben's fault, part AB...but if dudes were running around open I have to think 7 wd get them the ball....(I realize some guys are open at time and Ben misses). but most times, nobody is open
     
  2. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Predictable routes
     
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  3. SDOT

    SDOT Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of people open but Ben is only allowed to throw to one receiver, so.
     
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  4. jeh1856

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    Unless you run 17 consecutive out patterns, how the heck can you run a predictable route?
     
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  5. SteelerGlenn

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    Somebody is crushing hard on AB.
     
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  6. pellynch14

    pellynch14 Well-Known Member

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    Better question can our QB hit them if they are
     
  7. pellynch14

    pellynch14 Well-Known Member

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    Better question can our QB hit them if they are
     
  8. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    Eli Rodgers can find the open zone.
     
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  9. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT Well-Known Member

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    I wonder what a better question might be...
    :hmm:
     
  10. SDOT

    SDOT Well-Known Member

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    No, I'm fed up with him and his antics. I don't give a **** about his personal stats, he's done nothing for this organization. Now he's got people turning on our HoF, 2 time Super Bowl Champion quarterback. Ben is going to leave feeling like Bradshaw if this keeps up because of some knucklehead.
     
  11. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    Haley hasn’t exactly been doing us any favors in this department.
     
  12. SteelerGlenn

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    I never would have known you were fed up. It's not like you've been blowing up every thread with your dislike of AB.
     
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  13. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    Like AB or not he is by far the best talent this Team has . Ben is no longer a good QB . A good QB can hit guys coming out of the break and he can make throws to spots that throw WR'S open. Anytime a WR and DB are 1 on 1 a perfect throw can not be stopped. Teams don't have to worry about that with Ben, his throws will be off.

    AB has the ability to beat 2 and 3 men and adjust and catch poor throws at the same time . It's not the other WR'S fault that Ben is now a bad QB .

    As I stated a week or so ago if Eli was with Brady he would be an elite WR . If Ben could hit Bryant how many big plays would he have already? If Ben could hit JuJu in stride how many big plays would he have already ?
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Eli lost his job to a rookie, he was never that good.
     
  15. PWP

    PWP Well-Known Member

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    He lost his job because Ben can't hit him in stride . There was many plays last year that Eli was 1 step away from taking it to the house. On almost all of those the ball was high or it was late . Eli would be a elite WR with Brady . He runs good routes he has good hands .JuJu is out there because he has a larger catch Radius because that is needed because of Ben.

    A perfect throw is key when throwing to a smaller type slot guy. He needs the ball about belly high and right in front of him. This allows him to stay at full speed and keep his body protected . Brady is a master of that throw and Ben is 1 of the worse at it . Reaching out,reaching up, or slowing down will stop almost every big play thrown to a small slot guy . This is exactly what our slot guys must do all the time .Thus no big plays .
     
  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He hit Eli plenty in stride last year. Eli is just terrible at yac, one of my biggest beefs with him.
     
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  17. Busman

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    did you say crossing routes ? lol
     
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  18. PWP

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    Do you have some of those stride clips ? So we can look at ball placement ? Funny as most PR'S are open field runners ? He did loose that job, but staff must have thought he was good in the open field ? I would like to see those clips and see if the ball was placed like I suggested above.
     
  19. Blast Furnace

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    Yeah, Ill get right on that for you PWP. Maybe Ill find the clip of Eli tripping over his own two feet with open field in front of him.

    And you're right, he did loose his job at PR as well as his job in the slot. But keep concocting stories about why its Bens fault and not Elis average abilities.
     
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  20. PWP

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    I remember that 1 and it is common, i see guys do it all the time. I would like to evaluate the ball placement. That is the premise of my post . From my memory Ben is high most of the time across the middle if you can show me different then ok. If not then I contend it is more Ben and his ball placement .
     
  21. Busman

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    Here are some highlights. He looks pretty good at catching the ball and Bens throws seem to be sharp. That was then.. This is now.

     
  22. PWP

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    Thanks. Not a lot of throws right across the ball and quick . The few I counted Eli had to reach back or reach up for . I didn't see any quick throws that where placed correctly . What I did see is a WR with better than average hands and better than average yac ability .

    I am open for more tape . Thanks again.
     
  23. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Combination of poor offensive design and QB not being accurate to deliver the ball
    where receiver can do damage. BEN needs to play 100% better. And Todd Haley needs
    to design a better game plan. Good luck with that happening.
     
  24. turtle

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    I like Eli and think he should get some more time. The punt return fumble was bad, but I hope he does well when he returns.

    2016 YAC

    Coates - 6
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    Brown - 3.7

    Johnson - 7.7
    Green - 5.2
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    James - 3.1

    Touissant - 14.7
    Bell - 9.1
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  25. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Return? Return to what? I dont think you will see much of Eli anymore unless there is an injury.
     

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