Bye Bye fans.......again

265K? It was over 250k 2 months ago, so it proves my point that the death rate is falling

 

According to CDC, as of 11/25, 259,005 deaths nationwide.

 

No, go back and reread what I wrote and how I defined the death rate. It is what I use as a way to monitor the severity of the disease.

This is different than how you are defining, and Im sure different from the official CDC definition but I clearly explained the definition in my original reply.

 

My secret is........ Common sense!!!....don't be so damn gullable..Nobody can be 100 percent trusted...To many people with their own agendas

 

The CDC also said only 6% of the death total was actually COVID certified... It was a flash in the pan report ignored by most but it is what it is.

 

I thought this was a football forum.

 

The nurses and doctors trying to save your parents and grandparents are living in fear. But I guess not everyone is such a tough guy like you.

 

Hopefully we can stop counting morons also.

 

The money for games unattended is either refunded or applied to next year. Just an FYI.

 

The rate is falling. The standard of care has evolved over the course of the outbreak. Isn’t that reasonable?

Go Yinz Stiller’s n’ at

 

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The 6% are deaths with no co-morbidities. That's not to say that you dismiss the other 94%. That's also not to say that all 94% are truly CV deaths either.
While it isn't right to dismiss the obese 65 year old with diabetes as not a CV death because of his co-morbidities, it also isn't right to consider CV as the cause of death to the 83 yo lung cancer patient who is on Hospice either.
Nothing is black and white, even cause of death.

 

Both my wife and my daughter are nurses and I can assure you neither are living in fear.

 

My wife's an md. Same thing. Same with every single one of her colleagues that I've talked to. That's not to say that they don't think that it isn't serious and aren't concerned about a surge in cases, but they just have a better perspective than everyone else. They're used to dealing with sick people, busy hospitals, and crowded icu's. It happens more often than the general population realizes. Its that the few Drs and nurses who are 'living in fear' get the media attention and everyone sees them as the norm rather than the exception.

 

Seriously do you have a link to that? Not questioning it, Im just a numbers geek and would like to take a look at it. I honestly have a spreadsheet where I've been tracking daily cases, deaths, and tests. That's where I derived my 'death rate' from earlier in the thread.

 

I'm still struggling with the Poincaré conjecture. Want to brainstorm?

 

Beyond my pay grade. Im a simple minded man, so I stick with simple minded statistics.
My wife, brother in law, or son would be the ones engage with that.

 

It was either that or to call you a nerd. I've been known to use a spreadsheet from time to time myself.

 

My B.I.L. being an engineer is the biggest spreadsheet nerd ever. He just went on this crazy exercise and diet binge this summer and dropped a ton of weight. Not only was he measuring and weighing his food, but he was using that data to track his daily caloric intake and expenditure on a spreadsheet to precisely nail his diet. He wanted to email me the spreadsheet so I could use it, but Im like, I watch what I eat.... but I ain't weighing my food and entering every meal into excel. I'd rather deal with a little bit of flab.

 

I'm with you. I've tried different diets but just can't stick with anything that has me counting points or needing a slide rule to meal plan.

 

really? so you're wife and daughter are both nurses and you are on a football message board pushing that agenda? yea ok. Healthcare workers that are working in ICU's and ER's that are near capacity while being completely under staffed tell a different story. Peddle your bs elsewhere, I live with a healthcare worker and personally know a ton of them that work in a large urban hospital trying to save these people. When there's a car wreck or a stroke ...who's taking care of them and were do they go? This is a big part of the problem as well. In normal times they deal with busy ICU's and lack of staff. Now it's a disaster in many places. why not try to prevent that? Anyone who actually works in it, tells a different story and most certainly would not be on a football message board belittling a pandemic that is injuring and/or killing a lot of people. Not to mention the families effected. The people in these ICU's are scared. Fear can be healthy btw.

Love the people also suggesting there's a conspiracy that people aren't actually dying in high #'s..... that all of these people in healthcare are in cahoots to spread false information to us all to make it seem significantly worse than it is?

LMFAO Yes, they're all in on this well orchestrated conspiracy to shut down our economy, scare the public, and what ever else for what exactly? for an election? Do the conspiracy people ever actually think about what it would take for their bonker ideas to actually be true? You think the people that are losing $ in all of this might not go along with it? Like the hospitals? Most healthcare related businesses and employee's are not profiting from this at all btw. They have a financial interest in this going away, as do most people.

BTW there is data that is real..and irrelevant to the cause of the death, the over all death rate has spiked in the US and globally. Another person here made a comment about this...it is a fact and well documented. Coincidentally at the exact time of the surge in deaths this "flu" has spread around the globe...maybe it's the masks killing everyone?

If you take the stance that "I'm healthy, I'm not that old, why would I care" then sure you can only consider your self . Screw everyone else right? There's plenty of names for that kind of person. I personally have compassion for the folks trying to tackle this thing...especially the workers in the ICU's and hospitals dealing with it daily. I also have compassion for the folks that may have underlying disease that could put them at risk of death... I don't think a person with diabetes or obesity, or what ever should be considered less of a human not worthy of our efforts to protect them. It isn't rocket science to conclude if we all slow the spread it will make it more manageable and less people will suffer. I remember when the greatest generation had no problem changing their lives and making sacrifices to help others in our country and around the world. What happened to that way of thinking?