By sitting out this year Bell has dropped from the #1 RB to ???

I'd say by now Bell is looking like the 4th-6th best RB in the league now.

1. Gurley (by a mile)
2. Elliot
3. Gordon
4. Hunt
5. Barkley

The drop-off between Bell (assuming he's even in shape) and Conner is not very large now. Maybe Bell's good for an additional 20 yards rushing and 20 yards receiving a game over Conner?

What say you?

 

What round do you think we could have gotten Terrell Edmunds in?

 

I hear he could have been had in the 4th or 5th round.

 

Bell cannot be ranked at all this season due in part towards his statistics and performance which are "Not Available."



To assume Le'Veon Bell is a top five Running Back this season due to his previous history is the absolute pinnacle of the social biases known as the "Confirmation Bias" and "Recency Bias."

 

Probably could have got Burns in those rounds too.

 

Another Bell thread. Awesome!

 

Thanks for the stats lesson, professor.

Btw, how are your rookie predictions looking so far?

 

Professional jet skiier

 

When ranking a player, most of the ranking will be from expected future production. A 35 year old RB that is lighting it up won't be ranked the same as a 23 year old RB doing the same thing .

The same can be said for Talent . There's lots of guys that are situation dependent .If their situation changes for the worse, their production will go way down .Those are the kinds of guys that end up losing their jobs over time, even though they once had very good production (Isaac Redman and Steven Ridley are prime examples).

Connor is a guy that is far more situation dependent. He's the kind of guy that will produce with a good situation, but if that situation changes for the worse and he's expected to be the focal point of the offence, then I'm guessing he'll end up losing his job. I simply don't think he's talented enough.

Bell is talented enough . So while Bell might not accomplish anything more than Connor has so far, in 3 years when our Online isn't as good and Ben is gone, will Connor still be able to get the job done? My guess is no. He's a slightly better Isaac Redman.

 

Pretty good I would say.



Terrell is doing well given his circumstances. Chukwuma likely will not see any time given the fact that the team elected to roll with Matt Feiler.


Biggest concern is James Washington. Is it a trust issue? Consistency perhaps? Not sure but if he is the deep threat player you drafted for, allow him to fullfil his role.

 

The problem with Washington as a deep threat is that he isn't very tall/long (5'11 with 32" arms) and he isn't very fast (4.55 40). Deep threats usually have both of those qualities like Martavis or at least one. Apparently his body and skillset is a lot closer to that of a RB than a WR.

From his NFL draft profile:

• High cut with body type like a running back
• Top-heavy frame causes him to roll into breaks rather than sink sharply into them
• Footwork inside routes feels clunky and lack of timing
• Doesn't have skillset for fluid, complex routes

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/james-washington?id=32462018-0002-5599-27dc-5f82fa873706

 

You Watt Wacks alt account?


No sarcasm intended either. Watt Wack enacted on similar prinicples on players he did not like; Terrell Edmunds especially.

 

I think Bell and his agent might have made a mistake. We shall see I guess. If it’s all about the money, he better make a lot of it. Teams are going to have a lot of legitimate questions about Bell after this season.

 

Yes, please ban my original account Wack Watt. I no longer need it.

 

You are on to something here. See my question up top that he avoided. Check the dates where one account ended and another showed up. Notice the trend of look at me posts....

 

Don't make no nevermind to me. Don't even care to see him again

 

Yup

 

What say me, I say our offensive line is pretty damn good. During the Bengals game I thought Ben was Tom Brady the way he had so much time. (it really kills me when I see Brady hardly ever getting his ass handed to him like I've seen Ben destroyed way too many times) Of course Bell will have taken a drop from #1 since he is not playing. He has also dropped tons of $$$$$ by sitting out. Bell is a selfish piece of poop who I expect will get boo'd out of Heinz Field against Cleveland until he has a 76 yard run from scrimmage for a TD and just that quick fans will forget all the BS.

 

Barkley and Kamara over hunt and Gordon.

 

This is what I'm talking about right here. He made a very fair assessment and everyone disliked it because hes not bowing down to conner. He is a good player but pump the breaks. He will never be mentioned as the best rb in the nfl like bell was and this was with how great Gurley and Zeke have looked they still said no this guy is number 1. Stop trying to act like bell is a nobody.

 

I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see it. I see a guy with good power and speed and almost nothing else. There's no shortage of those guys around the league. The difference is they never got a shot to be the starter in a RB friendly system. RB is more dependent on situation than any other position. Just look at Gurley now compared to when he played under Jeff Fisher. Look at David Johnson under his current useless coach. There's a ton of RB's around the league that would produce good numbers in our system.

As I said, I hope I'm wrong and that Connor ends up being the man for a long time to come. That's one more pick we can spend on other positions. Remember though, Redman, Dwyer, Mendenhall, those guys are all considered to be good or even great by many, but they were all pretty mediocre talent wise. Dwyer and Redman were both over 4 ypc the year they were sharing the duties (2012 or 2013 I think). Mendenhall had 4 ypc for his career. Those guys would not put up those kinds of numbers on most other teams in the league, and the first time the Steelers were in a position to get rid of them as starters, they did so.

Talent sticks around, situation dependent players don't. I know which I think Connor is. Time will tell if I'm right. I hope i'm wrong.

 

I don't value TDs out of rbs that highly. Dont get me wrong a tub is a tub but One year Blount ran for 18 and most were in the goalline. If the qb sets you up and puts you at the goalline thats not because of you primarily. So TDs wouldn't be my measuring stick. Emmitt put up better numbers than anybody but it was clear he wasnt the talent a barry, walter, eric Dickerson etc... were. It's more to everything than just NUMBERS. Use the eye test. If it's all about numbers how was bell first team all pro last yr over Gurley who had far better numbers?

 

And everyone here saying get rid of bell. That's saying you feel as though you will get the same production out of conor. And I'm not the only one that likes connor but acknowledges hes no bell.