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Browns practically giving McCoy away

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SteelByDesign, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. SteelByDesign

    SteelByDesign Well-Known Member

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    The reports are the Browns realize Colt has got a raw deal, so they want trade him to "save him the embarrasment of being released" and don't want much at all for him.

    I don't think they'd trade him to a divion rival anyway but if we could get him for a 6th or 7th I'd jump all over that... He's still young, and veyr talented. He's played very well against our defense in the past, and I'd take him as our #2 over Leftwhich any day of the week.
     
  2. HugeSnack

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    I'd strongly consider him for something that late. I know he didn't look spectacular, but he had such limited time and such terrible conditions. Not many guys could have looked good given what he had. I wouldn't be so quick to hand him the #2 spot, though. Leftwich and Batch have both been with us for quite some time, and although people rag on Lefty and he does have his problems, he's played very well for us when called upon. Batch too. I love them as backups. It's only their age (mostly Batch) that makes me want to replace them.
     
  3. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    I always liked what I saw of McCoy's potential, and he would be a great back up. Two things counting against him though: as SDB says, trading to a division rival might be out of the question; and if they did, that first time in the locker room with James Harrison could be... awkward.
     
  4. HugeSnack

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    For what it's worth, I just read somewhere that McCoy said after looking at replays (because he has no actual memory of it), he didn't consider what James did to be a dirty hit.

    Harrison took the rap for what happened to Colt that night, but I can't believe whoever is in charge of Browns' player safety wasn't completely fired and banned from the league forever for what was clearly a roll of the dice on Colt's life, complete with BS hand injury cover-up. The man was literally knocked unconscious on the field, and you didn't suspect he had a concussion? Everyone in the stadium and on their couches knew it. If he'd been hit again he could have been seriously permanently damaged or worse, and if he was my son I'd press criminal charges against the Browns.

    Did any punishment or investigation take place at all? I don't remember.
     
  5. cory_86

    cory_86 Well-Known Member

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    they "looked at it" but nothing ever came from it...
     
  6. defva

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    We have two players that need to be signed immediately and not one of them are colt mccoy.With that being said,why don't we see,first of all,if colt is interested in coming to the steelers(If you can't beat them then join them),and then why not wait until they release him and wont have to give the browns anything.
    Oh man, he would be hated in ohio worst then lebron james...lol. :lolol:
     
  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    when colt responded," mom, do i have to go to school today" the training staff should have had some idea. and thig, yes it would be awkward in the lockeroom. just as it is for all of our guys already. i don't think any of them really make eye contact with james and he's their teamate. :frustrated: :facepalm: :cool:
     
  8. oldschool

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    I for one would love this kid as our #2 back up. In fact, as much as I love the service both Batch and Lefty have given us over the years I would release one or both of them and give their money (or some of it) to McCoy now. Get this guy in camp and be done with trying to find a player who has any worth and NFL ability. I am not comfortable at all in these two playing a full season well if Ben went down early with something. I would have hope for McCoy. Those two are just stop gaps for for a game or two because of their age. Colt is a long term answer back up. I like the kid too...
     
  9. ivanarevalo07

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    I feel the Browns should have been penalized FAR worse than Harrison was. What he did was during a game at full speed and unintentional. The Browns actually had time to think about the decision to put a players health at risk, intentionally, and then lied about it.
     
  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'd take him on the team in a second. I like Colt and he's gotten a raw deal in Cleveland, not only the mishandling of the concussion, but his whole career. I read an article about what the former OC put him through, teammates talked about how they never seen anything like it, like it was straight out of a movie, he was totally mistreated. I'd love him as our backup, I'd feel alot better about Ben missing games that's for sure.
     
  11. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    One good thing about having him would be that we might be able to get some value from him in trade. Teams are always looking for a guy that they think might be a proven commodity. However, I guess I have no point given that they are not looking for him now. But another good thing is that he is apparently a pretty good kid and that's never a bad thing to have around. I think the really awkward moment would be when his DAD met James Harrison. I imagine that James would "launch" himself towards him and say "I'm James Harrison. But I think you know that."
     
  12. PSYCHOSTEELER

    PSYCHOSTEELER Well-Known Member

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    I agree
     
  13. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Colt McCoy is a gamer, but he can't make all the throws.
    This is the difference between pro football and college. Can you make
    all the throws.
     
  14. SteelByDesign

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    Which is why I'd want him as a backup, not a starter.

    He's come close to beating us with Greg Little and Josh Cribbs as his top targets... Imagine what he might do with a real offense.
     
  15. mac daddyo

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    what he would do is still be to short to see over the line. why would we want a brown reject anyway? i'll take jerrod johnson over him. i want that ben size backup in there. i think our kid will show some talent this preseason. maybe one of our elders go this year, but i'd figure more like johnson will go to the Squad. :cool:
     
  16. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    He is an inch taller then drew brees
     
  17. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not to mention Doug Flutie played in this league and I believe he is shorter then both.
     
  18. diehardsteel

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    I'd try him out to see if he could be our #2. Both lefty and batch have their shortcomings (injury prone and age respectfully) plus I'd rather have heart than height in my back up qb anyway.
     
  19. PDXSteelers

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    I bet the Browns would want more than a 6th or 7th round for McCoy. He is a talented QB and should easily be our #2. I would trade a 4th or even a 3rd rounder for him. If you wait in the off-chance that he gets cut, another team will offer him more $ than Pittsburgh.
     
  20. SteelByDesign

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    People amaze me with naive comments like "why would we want a Browns reject." Because the Browns are too damn stupid to see that they have a half decent kid playing the position. They just drafted a 28 year old QB in the first round!

    As for his height, come on. He's an inch shorter than Charlie Batch.


    In his first career start (against us) he went 23 of 33 passes for 281 yards, a touchdown, and two interceptions... Obivously the turnovers hurt but that's pretty damn good if you ask me.
     
  21. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:
     
  22. SteelYourPoints

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:2ufc002h]

    Yeah, because the browns wouldn't make a mistake would they? :roll: The kid has potential (more than anyone we have behind Ben), and I wouldn't be the least bit upset if we gave up a late rounder for the guy.
     
  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:3i93fdk0]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.
     
  24. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:cw4qwuyx]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.[/quote:cw4qwuyx]

    drew brees was good at SD. colt in 3 years = 20 td's-20 int.- 12 fumbles. i doubt he will come for league minimum or want to sit the bench for the next 5-7 years. no thanks. charlie deserves his last year and lefty played well for us when we used him. johnson gets a year on the practice squad and gains a spot next year. he was the starter over the browns 1st pick weedon. the kid messed up his shoulder at A & M. he was a good qb before that. the shoulder is healthy now. he would have been a high pick and we have him sitting in our laps already. :cool:
     
  25. oldschool

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    that's one game my friend. he ain't no drew brees. close only counts in horseshoes and hand granades. we deserve better then pretty good. yes, it makes a difference if they can see well over the linemen. charlie is your comparison? big deal. heck tyler palko went 18 of 28 against us, do you want him too? he even played for our OC. where you are getting this naive crap? if the kid was so great, every team in the league would be knocking their doors down to get him. they are not and for a reason. if he's so good they would have kept him, bottom line. so, yes he's a browns reject. i for one don't want the kid. nor do i want brees or flutie. :cool:[/quote:2ghxy21z]

    Not for nothing but Drew Brees wasn't Drew Brees until he got to NO, so who's to say Colt wouldn't do better playing for a real team. I'd settle for pretty good, not too many Aaron Rodgers sitting on the bench out there.[/quote:2ghxy21z]

    drew brees was good at SD. colt in 3 years = 20 td's-20 int.- 12 fumbles. i doubt he will come for league minimum or want to sit the bench for the next 5-7 years. no thanks. charlie deserves his last year and lefty played well for us when we used him. johnson gets a year on the practice squad and gains a spot next year. he was the starter over the browns 1st pick weedon. the kid messed up his shoulder at A & M. he was a good qb before that. the shoulder is healthy now. he would have been a high pick and we have him sitting in our laps already. :cool:[/quote:2ghxy21z]

    I don't know there Mac, I just read the wikipedia on the kid and he doesn't seem too stellar. He sounds like Dennis Dixon 2.0 at the very best. Colt has NFL experience and won some games with a crappy team. I don't think he is starter material, but a decent BU. JJ seems like practice squad and emergency hat spot if something tragic happened.

    Training camp and pre season is going to answer soooo many questions we are all chewing on right now. I can't wait...
    :popcorn: :praying: :popcorn: : :clapping: :popcorn: :superman: :popcorn: :swordsman: :popcorn: :herewego: :popcorn:
     

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