Broderick Jones

I stand corrected then.


My mistake.

 

Your really making alot of excuses to justify your point. He was the highest rated lineman on their team. Yes they have good players but at this point so do we what does that say about Jones playing beside Daniels? I don’t think the situation is gong to be as bad as we all think it will with Jones. I am sure his injury or the brace is impacting him but the moving him around doesn’t make any sense for his development. Look at how bad Minkah played last year when we essentially asked him to be a box safety. They recognized they needed a better strong safety and middle linebackers to allow Minkah to go back to his natural position of free safety. I just don’t think they have that same type of coaching acumen on the offensive side of the ball. We have made the same mistakes repeatedly on that side of the ball. The common denominator in Tomlin and Meyer. The new guy in the room has to speak up and impart change so we can get out of this rut of badd offensive line play for years. Before you say it takes years to develop guys ... KC turned their line around in one offseason. They turned their defense around on one offseason. You watch they will turn their WR’s around this offseason.

 

For anyone wondering if I have come to hate Broderick Jones... please remove that thought from your head. Outside of TJ Watt, no other player I wanted the Steelers to covet more coming out was in the same vein as Broderick Jones. I truly thought he wasn't going to last nearly as long; doubly so given how the 2023 Draft Class only had the likes of him, Paris Johnson and Darnell Wright as far as potential Franchise Caliber Tackles go. Now, one year in, it isn't looking too good for Jones. However, I will leave those who may be down on Jones to look into watching this video.






Why would I post a video about someone like Andrew Thomas?! Broderick Jones is essentially a supercharged version of Thomas for Jones is the far superior athlete and possesses the greater level of potential. If Thomas can turn it around given what he has had to deal with in New York, so can Broderick.

 

Did you see the Chiefs #1 draft pick Xavier Worthy in this weekend's game? At 6'2" and running a 4.21 forty, the fastest of all time, he was simply uncoverable. His first catch was for 37 yards and then caught a 27 yard TD. He was 10 yards ahead of everyone else running down field.

 

Does Broderick Jones have 36” plus arms?

 

KC went out and got new offensive tackles. vets, not rookies to fix the problem. there defense wasn't that bad even when it needed upgrading. they have the trophy's to prove that. they could build the defense like dallas. good when they can make teams have to pass to win. not to great if they have to play against a team holding a lead and running the ball. they have a qb that doesn't let that happen. it's well reported on.

 

you MUST comment on COACHING - yes, I am yelling. that is THE elephant in the room. Sure - they have a stud QB and we are not even close, but there is much better coaching. we will be mediocre as long as mediocre mike is the Leader here.

 

Yes they did get Vets one of which went to the Bengals and didn’t play nearly as well for them. KC’s offense didn’t light the world on fire last year. They weren’t an explosive offense putting up hugh leads allowing the defense to tee off on opposing offenses. They still had to solid in stopping the run.

 

Fantasy sleeper no longer.

 

I think we would be fine on offense if Tomlin would get out of the way and let Smith handle everything including who the OL Coach is.

 

he can't and he won't. see all the posts about botching and ruining this oline.

We did not go with greatness, even in hiring Smith. there were better options. We went conservative.

Tomlin is the albatross here - well ROONEY is......

 

That is the million dollar question. Is he or is i Rooney? Does Tomlin micro-manage or is he completely hands off in particular with the offense? We never used to do these musical chairs under Tomlin with the offensive lineman. Is it Meyer? I really don’t know. Ultimately Tomlin is responsible because he is the head coach. He is either making these decisions or allowing them to happen.

 

Rooney is a problem.

i am tired of them both.

 

I think alot of fan bases would trade us their owner and coach in a heart beat. The bottom line the Steelers just need to stop repeating the same mistakes year after year. Everyone is doom and gloom right now including myself but things in preseason and the media often get over dramatized.

 

i have said that for years.

 

their qb could score them to the lead in seconds and did a few times.

 

No doubt a franchise QB trumps everything. But you were referencing their offense as if it scored alot of points allowing their defense to be one dimensional or I should say the opposing offense to be one dimensional thus allowing the defense to play the pass which was admittedly their strength. But honestly in todays NFL aren’t all defenses striving to be that kind of defense? You don’t see too many teams building to stop the run anymore. It just isn’t a priority anymore in the NFL. There is a reason the NT is becoming obsolete and the fullback and MLB’s and RB’s get paid less.

 

https://steelersdepot.com/2024/08/watch-whats-wrong-with-broderick-jones/

 

actually being a balanced defense is the way to go. much harder to exploit. we see just on this site of people saying we have to stop the run. we have been exploited in the past by good running teams. we have been trying to fix the LB spot for years with a guy or two that can play the pass but isn't good at stopping the run. balance is the ticket.

 

Stopping the run starts with the defensive line. We aren’t built to stop the run. Our D-lineman are gap penetrators. They are smaller and quicker and they don’t often occupy multiple blockers. Asa a result you see our smallish linebackers built for the pass getting robbed up by these offensive lineman. I do think we have linebackers this year though even if we don’t have the big two gap eating defensive lineman to protect them.

 

I agree but thats a different argument, not relative their development of the defense which is what we were talking about.

 

That's what their defense is built around. That's my point. They know 9 times out of 10 the other team will have to pass to keep up. Especially later in the game when he gives them the lead.

 

I would disagree to an extent. We were T-19 in YPA last year against the run.... slightly below average, but mostly just average. We do 0.2 YPA better, we end up T-10. We only gave up 9 rushing scores all year, which put us 3rd in the league. We just aren't DOMINANT against the run like our defenses in recent memory were. Those defenses were built to stop the run and win in 3rd and long situations. This defense seems to be built more on stopping big plays and making splash plays (via sack or turnover). If we replace the penetrator DL type with the "space eaters" you'd see other stats fall. The space eaters don't generally offer much in the way of pass rush. This would allow for more help against our EDGE rushers, lowering our sacks, pressures, and by default turnovers as well. We're just built differently (and built more towards defending the modern offense more effectively IMO).

We were 7th in turnovers, 11th in yards allowed, 7th in PPG, 11th in sacks. We were a pretty well rounded quality defense last year. Hard to say we aren't doing what we are supposed to be doing.

 

He does not.


He is the superior athlete though; something that matters quite a bit as an Offensive Tackle. For that matter, Brodericks arm length is more than sufficient to do the job. Chrsitan Darrisaw also does not possess 36" Arms either but has become one of the best Left Tackles in all of Football.

 

In a one score game even if your behind by one score playing a dynamic QB like that, wouldn’t the opposing offense want to maintain possession of the ball and keep him off the field while trying to tie the score?