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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TheSteelHurtin2188, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    Leave if you want to, but I think suggesting we bring Porter in to teach Carter is not only a ridiculous move when it comes to money and roster space (a fifth OLB??), but it also shows a lack of "love" to the two OLBs currently on the roster that have been playing at or near HOF levels for the last 4 years (and do more than just one move each), as well as the blossoming 3rd OLB, who could step in and start for any team, including this one. Not to mention the Steelers' coaching staff! And Carter's ability to develop himself.

    The Steelers aren't capable of developing a young, raw outside linebacker on their own? Isn't your whole point that Porter, Harrison, and Woodley all thrived here, despite being different? Worilds is becoming great too, and there were quite a few good ones before these guys! I'm sorry, but it would be a waste of money, a roster spot we don't even have, a toss up effect on the locker room, and would not affect a thing on the field. And what's the benefit, it helps our 3rd stringer and #4 on the depth chart learn a move or two? I'm sorry, but if you can't take criticism for an idea like that...
     
  2. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    We needed a sixth one last year.
     
  3. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Porter played amazingly for us for most of his time. The play off game against Indy for Superbowl 40 had some of my favourite plays, pure grit and aggression.

    However, his last season with us he was a liability. I don't see how giving him a pay cheque with limited expectations would solve that.
     
  4. gpguy

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    Thats why they have Timmons also. But you cant waste a roster spot thats needed in another area on a guy who is just there in case of a bunch of injuries. If 2-3 OLBs go down...the team would make whatever move is needed to bring in another one at that time. But its just stupid to waste a spot for no reason...thats not how you run a team...that and everything else HugeSnack said is right on the money.
     
  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    just let the porter jersey hang in your closet. :cool:
     
  6. defva

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    welker is not their best receiver...gradkowski is...get the point?! welker pick up alot of yards on yac but he's not their best receiver or go to guy.Where was he in the playoffs and superbowl after gradkowski got hurt?
     
  7. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    You're right. At one point our top 3 players were all injured at the same time last year. So go sign Porter last year. Unless you think those three simultaneous injuries will happen again?? I guess it's possible. But isn't it just as possible that that will happen for other positions too? Why don't we go sign aging vets to backup our backups at every single position, just in case? I bet Chad Scott is available. And if only the OLB position is going to be affected by injuries, what if Porter gets hurt? Shouldn't we get Haggans too?
     
  8. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    Uh, you're not going anywhere with this argument. The OP was ridiculous with the Porter thing, but you're giving his argument credibility by saying Ike wasn't anything more than "the best we have" last year. He stunk against Denver, but didn't have an ounce of help when he clearly needed it (and most corners get). He had another bad game or two throughout the season, but overall was outstanding. Welker's a very good receiver, and the fact is that Ike not only had a good game against him, but basically had to change positions in order to cover him, and still did well. That says nothing but good things about him.

    I wouldn't call him a shutdown corner either, because he's too inconsistent. But at his best, he is a shutdown corner. He just can't do it for a full season like a real one. But he can do it for stretches of the season, especially when he is facing less than elite competition (don't forget, he takes the biggest threat every play). That makes him pretty good in my book, at least in 2011.
     
  9. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Porter is 35 and coming off a injury no thanks the Steelers aren't interested.
     
  10. BURGH43STEL

    BURGH43STEL Well-Known Member

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    Unless the Steelers lose 3 OLB's again, I don't see Porter being an option.
     
  11. Homestead____Works

    Homestead____Works Well-Known Member

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    I thought he retired about 3 years ago.
     
  12. SteelinOhio

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    No thanks. There was a time when I liked Peezy, but I honestly wasn't sad to see him go. He was getting to be too mouthy and his performance was declining, so I can't see him coming back and being beneficial now.
     
  13. SteelinOhio

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    What??? So people not wanting a former player back somehow equals "hate for the Steelers?" I've been a Steeler fan since the late 70s, but that doesn't mean I have to have blind love for every person who's worn the black and gold to still be a fan....
     
  14. SSylvester

    SSylvester Well-Known Member

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    Washed up Porter over Timmons at OLB? What are you smoking?
     
  15. steelfan

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    Everyone was pretty much in agreement that it was time for Ward to move on with his life's work. If Porter was brought back, he would be the Ward of the defense. Swagger is nice and it IS NEEDED, but it doesn't mean much if you can't produce on the field and I don't think Porter is as good as the young up and comers.
     
  16. thorn058

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    You mean like Dixon, Batch and Lefty? Huge waste of roster spots since Ben played and took snaps in practice even when he was too hurt to play and hurting the team by insisting he was ready to go if called upon when he clearly wasn't. Seems like a waste of three good roster spots to me, whats one more.
     
  17. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    Joey's done @ Pittsburgh_move on.

    Ike is what he is, our best and arguably a top 10 borderline 5 corner in this league. He's certainly not the best but he is our best_live it.

    Gay, good gad is he really gone?
     
  18. Wardismvp

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    Son, I have been around long enough to see the Steelers when they were the laughing stock
    of the world, when they played at Pitt Stadium.I have been thru many of losing seasons. You need to go back to your Madden and everything will be alright. Steelers included. just because some of us think Joey Porter is done doesn't make us Steeler haters. You guys need to take off your
    rose colored sunglasses and come into the real world, where the Steelers are in the process of
    building a competitive team.We all love the Steelers but are smart enough football wise to know
    they do not walk on water. There are probably 6 or7 teams ahead of us talent wise at this point
    in the juncture, lets see how the Steelers play it out.
     
  19. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    The problem with our back up QBs is that they're basically fragile.

    So what we're basically saying here is, get rid of Dixon and Lefty, and sign Porter as our back up QB. I'm sure he can throw better than Tebow, and would be damn hard to sack.
     
  20. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    I'm not for bringing Joey Porter back. But I did enjoy him in his glory days. Let's just leave him there. I don't think it would make much sense to let Farrior go and then bring back Porter. That's sort of like robbing Peter to pay Paul. That's just my opinion though.
     
  21. SteelByDesign

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    I don't want Porter, but Timmons is a non-factor at OLB, and I think moving him there stunted his development as an ILB. Two seasons ago I thought he was close to all-pro material. In theory it seems like a good fit with Timmons' speed, but I can't remember a single time that Timmons made a nice edge rush.

    I've seen more out of Worilds at OLB than Timmons.


    That being said I'm not bashing him, I just don't think it's his position, and we need him inside more than outside anyway. The coaching staff needs to stop jerking him around and let him flourish as an ILB.
     
  22. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    To wardismvp me calling a lot of you steeler haters has nothing to do with porter. Since being over here ihave read fire DL fire tomlin get rid of ben timmons sucks tYlor sucks gay sucks colbert isnt good the rooneys Re losing it hampton sucks foote sucks our entire oline sucks wallace only does one thing yet brown is only good becuase of wallace all our back ups suck mendy sucks but his unproven back up is great so there is what boggles my mind. If all these people suck then why Re we always in the hunt.
     
  23. ScottChab

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    It's not all roses when a team underperforms. I'd rather have realists on the board than everyone wearing black & gold glasses 24/7.
     
  24. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    WE WENT 12-4 WITH A OLINE IN SHAMBLES NO STARTING OLBS AND A QB ON ONE LEG WHO UNDER PERFORMED
     
  25. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    Yes, those people are all morons. They like to defend themselves by saying they're just keeping it real, as if anything anti-Steelers or pro-other teams/players has to be true, because they have the courage to say it.

    There are also the ones that are overly positive, but they bother me less because:

    A) I like my Steelers, and would rather hear incorrect good things about them than incorrect bad things about them, especially from fans.

    B) The overly positive fans are fewer than the negative nellies, or at least it seems like it. They're also usually easier to talk sense into. People who come onto a message board to bash their team in ways that aren't even accurate are pretty much as deaf as they are blind. They have their mind made up because that's what their mind needs to be satisfied, for whatever reason.

    C) Given what a truly great team we are (how many losing seasons in my lifetime? Like two? And many other reasons), the overly-positive fans are generally much closer to the truth than the overly-negative fans.

    So it gets to me too, but it comes with the territory. If I were you, I'd save my freakout for a more justified cause than this one, because you are way off about Porter, and the other LBs by extension.
     

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