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rukus4ever · Dec 21, 2011

mdbates2 said:

12to88 said:

Some of us have been saying fire Bruce Arians for four years. He sucks. It's as simple as that. And last nigth's game, the 49ers' offensive showing, has reminded me of just how inept the guy and his scheme is.

The problem is, Arians thinks he has a high-octane passing attack, when he doesn't. He doesn't know the first thing about putting together an explosive offense, but he has Ben convinced he does.
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Think what you want - but LAST NIGHT'S game is poor evidence to criticize Bruce Arians. The game plan was SOLID - and the play calling was correct. It was called with obvious attention toward protecting Ben and giving him the chance to succeed despite his injury. Ben is the one that screwed up the game from an offensive standpoint, and he said as much. Without the picks and the fumble, we're in here crowing about a dominant victory last night. He blew it. He knew it. I'm no Arians fan, but use other evidence because this game does not work.
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Agreed. But nobody's going to blame Ben, out here. "Fire the whole organization except Ben! We can build an entire NFL franchise around him from the owners on down!" Lol!

rukus4ever · Dec 21, 2011

BLACKnGOLDsince72 said:

BobbyBiz said:

12to88 said:

mdbates2 said:

12to88 said:

Some of us have been saying fire Bruce Arians for four years. He sucks. It's as simple as that. And last nigth's game, the 49ers' offensive showing, has reminded me of just how inept the guy and his scheme is.

The problem is, Arians thinks he has a high-octane passing attack, when he doesn't. He doesn't know the first thing about putting together an explosive offense, but he has Ben convinced he does.
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Think what you want - but LAST NIGHT'S game is poor evidence to criticize Bruce Arians. The game plan was SOLID - and the play calling was correct. It was called with obvious attention toward protecting Ben and giving him the chance to succeed despite his injury. Ben is the one that screwed up the game from an offensive standpoint, and he said as much. Without the picks and the fumble, we're in here crowing about a dominant victory last night. He blew it. He knew it. I'm no Arians fan, but use other evidence because this game does not work.
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md: I am not necessarily laying blame for last night's game on Arians. What I saw in last night's game, that has me so hot under the collar, was execution from an inferior offense against our D. It was yet another eye opener. I was stunned at how well that 49ers offense was able to move the ball and there were three or four plays, perfectly designed and perfectly executed, that made me jealous. And I am left to think, "Why can't our offense operate like THAT?" It's one thing to wish we had plays and play calling to rival the Packers, Saints, or Patriots. But when I am envious of what the 49ers can do on offense, than it's an ever bigger sign that Arians sucks.
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The 49ers had 10 drives. Four of them were 25 or more yards.

The Steelers had 10 drives. 6 of them were 25 or more yards.

The 49ers had 3 drives of 7 plays or longer. The Steelers had 6.

The Steelers D gives up an average of 277 yards per game. The 49ers bested that by 10 yards.

The 49ers D gives up an average of 311 yards per game. The Steelers bested that by 78 yards.

It was actually the STEELERS offense who had better success at moving the ball against a top 5 D (lets not overlook that little tid-bit). And its not even close.

The difference? Two things.

Most obvious, the 3 turnovers that the 9ers converted into 13 points.

And secondly, lost in the discussion, is the field position. The Steelers average starting position was their own 15 which they commented was THE WORST starting field position in an NFL game since 2002.

I fail to see how any of this is Arians fault.
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Unfortunately others do see how it's his fault but they're looking at it with their eyes wide SHUT. BA certainly has his faults but he wasn't the problem last night. I don't give a chit who's calling plays or what kind of offense you're running. If you turn the ball over 4 times against a decent team more often than not you're gonna get your ass kicked and that's exactly what happened.
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Watch yourself. Too much truth that indicates BA was not to blame might get you blacklisted. Lol!

Concussion · Dec 21, 2011

JD99 said:

SteelerD said:

BobbyBiz said:

12to88 said:

mdbates2 said:

[quote="12to88":dksyk3lb]Some of us have been saying fire Bruce Arians for four years. He sucks. It's as simple as that. And last nigth's game, the 49ers' offensive showing, has reminded me of just how inept the guy and his scheme is.

The problem is, Arians thinks he has a high-octane passing attack, when he doesn't. He doesn't know the first thing about putting together an explosive offense, but he has Ben convinced he does.
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Think what you want - but LAST NIGHT'S game is poor evidence to criticize Bruce Arians. The game plan was SOLID - and the play calling was correct. It was called with obvious attention toward protecting Ben and giving him the chance to succeed despite his injury. Ben is the one that screwed up the game from an offensive standpoint, and he said as much. Without the picks and the fumble, we're in here crowing about a dominant victory last night. He blew it. He knew it. I'm no Arians fan, but use other evidence because this game does not work.
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md: I am not necessarily laying blame for last night's game on Arians. What I saw in last night's game, that has me so hot under the collar, was execution from an inferior offense against our D. It was yet another eye opener. I was stunned at how well that 49ers offense was able to move the ball and there were three or four plays, perfectly designed and perfectly executed, that made me jealous. And I am left to think, "Why can't our offense operate like THAT?" It's one thing to wish we had plays and play calling to rival the Packers, Saints, or Patriots. But when I am envious of what the 49ers can do on offense, than it's an ever bigger sign that Arians sucks.
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The 49ers had 10 drives. Four of them were 25 or more yards.

The Steelers had 10 drives. 6 of them were 25 or more yards.

The 49ers had 3 drives of 7 plays or longer. The Steelers had 6.

The Steelers D gives up an average of 277 yards per game. The 49ers bested that by 10 yards.

The 49ers D gives up an average of 311 yards per game. The Steelers bested that by 78 yards.

It was actually the STEELERS offense who had better success at moving the ball against a top 5 D (lets not overlook that little tid-bit). And its not even close.

The difference? Two things.

Most obvious, the 3 turnovers that the 9ers converted into 13 points.

And secondly, lost in the discussion, is the field position. The Steelers average starting position was their own 15 which they commented was THE WORST starting field position in an NFL game since 2002.

I fail to see how any of this is Arians fault.
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Brilliant Post BobbyBiz, I would only add that is seems some fans on this board only remember the plays that went wrong for the Steelers and plays that went right for their opponents.
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I couldn't agree more! Well said![/quote:dksyk3lb]

I totally agree. The Steelers played hard under a solid scheme. They could have won but the BR turnovers killed them. I have to take a Christmas break for the Board. Wait until after they win.

rutan74 · Dec 21, 2011

Who said, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

Ahh, that would be the Steeler fanbase.

The problem(s) as I have been pointing out for years now is that nothing has changed. The Steelers still do the same things they were doing a few years ago that got no results but they still think that if they continue to do them, the results will change. Ahh, no. Every excuse in the book as to why this or that does not work. Maybe, just maybe it is the system? We have a pretty good defensive "system" so why can't the offensive system that is and has been in place for years be a bad system for the personnel we have? Insanity.

I am sure there are quite a few here that can call 70 percent of the Steeler plays. I know I can because I have done it. They ARE that predictable. Moore comes in and it is either a draw or a swing pass to him. Not to hard to figure out. Hines lines up wide with 2 other receivers and it is a quick out to him with a gain of 3 maybe, right?

So, year after year, we see the same tired plays from BA. No imagination, just the same old same old just expecting different results. I.E. Insanity.

rutan

TerribleTowelFlying · Dec 21, 2011

rutan74 said:

Who said, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."
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Einstein. :geek:

Concussion · Dec 22, 2011

rutan74 said:

Who said, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."

So, year after year, we see the same tired plays from BA. No imagination, just the same old same old just expecting different results. I.E. Insanity.

rutan
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I want the same result and suspect that most Steeler fans want the same results also. Continue to make the playoffs and Super Bowl appearances. I think it is unrealistic to expect better results than the team has experienced over the last five years.

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