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Big Ben should have a good game vs the Raiders

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelersrule6, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    If the o-line gives him time the Raiders are down to their 4th and 5th cornerbacks because of injuries.
     
  2. numbah58

    numbah58 Staff Member Mod Team

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    The Raiders got torched for 172 on the ground by Reggie Bush last week.
    I think we'll throw it well but this may be the week that our running game gets healthy..
     
  3. cory_86

    cory_86 Well-Known Member

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    they'll probably let Seymour knock him out after the first snap ... trading a DT for a QB is a good trade :p

    j/k, if Pittsburgh plays as angry as they played last time OAK was @PIT (and the refs are a bit less retarded than the ones in THAT game - seriously, 150+ or so yds of penalties??? - which should be doable even for the replacements shmucks), the Raiders shouldn't stand a chance.
     
  4. edog55

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    You can never tell what will happen, lets just say we hope so. Lets hope this is an easy one and we come out of it with a big score and no injuries. We go into the bye week looking good and against the Eagles we get our horses back, Harrison, Polamalu, and Mendenhall!
     
  5. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    I hate to be a negative nancy but Ben is (1-2) vs the Raiders lifetime. But, as long as we don't beat ourselves we should beat the Raiders.
     
  6. PWP

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    Should lead to a better running game for us...With them being thin at CB I expect a lot of zone coverage and not much DB help in the box.....Our OL has been horrible in run blocking so this should be the week they open up some running lanes.....Coach T wants better blocking and a better play menu...My take is the same as Steelers Depot....

    Stop running East and West until the OL gels better and start running straight at them with Power running...Hopefully this will be the approach and we will stay out of negative running plays and get ahead of the chains for the 1st. time this year...
     
  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    That stuff doesn't matter, not with a team we see so infrequently and that has major personnel turnover in both it's players and coaches so often. We should handle them fairly easy.
     
  8. FeelTheSteel

    FeelTheSteel Well-Known Member

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    "we SHOULD handle them fairly easy . . . "

    You're right. SHOULD!

    We are 2-4 at Oakland since the merger. The last time we played them there, in 2006, we lost to a Raiders team that wound up being 2-14 that year (us being one of their two wins).

    Inside the numbers (records since 1970):
    In the state of California: 15-19
    Our record in California during the great decade of the 1970's: 6-5
    Record on the west coast (seattle, sf, oak, la raiders, la rams, sd): 16-25
    Record west of the rockies (to include denver and arizona): 20-35-1
    Why'd we lose to Denver? Record at Mile High/Invesco: 2-7-1 (including 0-2-1 during the 70s decade)

    Doesn't matter if we're playing at an eventual 2-14 team or if we're playing against Tim Tebow at quarterback . . . It doesn't matter if it's the greatest dynasty in pro football since the merger . . . We simply do not play well west of the Rockies.

    How successful of an organization do you think the Seahawks have been over the years? Mediocre at best? We're 1-6 at Seattle.
    We were 0-4 at the Los Angeles Rams and 0-2 there during the 70s (no wonder we struggled against a vastly inferior team in XIV).

    To put this in perspective, the winningest team since the merger has a .364 winning percentage west of the Rockies.

    I'd stay away from the sports book at Caesar's this weekend if I were you.

    That said, I actually think we win this game rather handily.
     
  9. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    YIKES we suck out West!!! Never realized this. On one hand, I want to think that this has to turn around at some point, but the records are very telling...
     
  10. Diamond

    Diamond Well-Known Member

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    I cant get that memory out of mind in 09 when the raiders beat us at heinz with a 2nd string QB Gradkowski, a 2 win team beat us and we went 9-7 and missed the playoffs because we under estimated them, the steelers have a problem looking at teams win loss records then blowing the game because they think all they have to do is showup to get the win, this is a hungry raider team thats going to pull out all the stops to beat us Sunday, and if we play them like we did in 09 they will beat us, remember we lost to not one, but three two win teams in 09, have we learned to take these weak teams serious yet, we will find out Sunday, and if we cant stop McFadden&Palmer they just might get a big running game going and mix in some long passes and it will be lights out again like it was in 09....
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You give me a history win/loss break down out west, advise staying away from Vegas and then end up agreeing with my prediction :lolol:
     
  12. FeelTheSteel

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    You give me a history win/loss break down out west, advise staying away from Vegas and then end up agreeing with my prediction :lolol:[/quote:1iobd6qm]

    Ha! Yeah, I just have a feeling our team is going to be too much for them. It's more about the matchups than anything else. The Oakland secondary IS depleted. Carson DOES suck. He DOESN'T have the weapons for an intermediate passing game that can dissect our defense. I think it'll be like the Arizona game we won last season at their place (even though we were only 1-3 in arizona, 1-4 if you count XXX, going into the game) when Wallace hauled in a 95yrd td and we rolled easily. And I think last season's Cardinals are actually better than this season's Raiders. The Raiders just lost a game last week to a team I didn't think would win a game this year. And they got stomped.

    But there lies another caveat: beware the team that just got embarrassed the previous week.
     
  13. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    van dyne may be able to give us some insight. :cool:
     
  14. nitrous12

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    I was at the last Raiders game in Pittsburgh. Only game I have been to in fact.

    I'll take some more of that please!!! Not adding much here, but this made me reminisce on that one great trip I was able to make to Heinz field. Hope to get there again :)
     
  15. FeelTheSteel

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    You take more of what? The Raiders beating us at Heinz? I'm not following. That game was awful. If Ryan Mundy could catch a football thrown between the 2 and the 9, we would have won.

    I was at the home opener in 2004 against the Raiders where Jerome Bettis, backing up Willie Parker, had the unusual stat line of 5 carries for 1 yard and 3 TD's. Jeff Reed kicked a 42-yrd fg with seven seconds left to give us a 24-21 win (oh, I miss the days when Skippy was money).

    I was in Baltimore the next week to watch Maddox go down with an elbow injury and Benjamin Todd came in and, well . . . you know the rest.
     
  16. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    My fear with this game is that the Raiders are hungry for a win and I think no matter what that makes for a dangerous situation. I know it's early on but this could be one of those "trap game" situatuions. I work with a big Raiders fan and he was asking me what I honestly thought about the game and I told him I think we will probably win but I don't think we'll blow them out. I just hope we don't get caught with our pants down in this one because we know that we "ought" to win.
     
  17. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Take more of us wiping the field with them. Last time they were here we won by over 30 points. Though, I could do without seeing a Raider deck our QB in the face.
     
  18. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    we'll moider da bums. :stogie:

    :cool:
     
  19. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Was that the game that Ben was trying to get past the defender to celebrate and the guy turned around and decked him? Seymore maybe?
     
  20. FeelTheSteel

    FeelTheSteel Well-Known Member

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    Oh, yeah. I forgot about that game. Richard Seymour hitting Ben. Lamarr Woodley getting hosed on a horrible roughing the passer penalty that negated a rare defensive td for us. The way that game was officiated the 'Goodell has turned this league into a pansy league' era was officially upon us. I was thinking the last time we played them here was the Gradkowski debacle.
     
  21. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    JUST when I had forgotten the Gradkowski game!!! Dang your eyes!
     

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