Big Ben frustrated with the direction of the Steelers

No kidding I for one do not want to go back to a great oline and no QB. Ben is our QB now lets get someone that can block. I do think Haley needs to go ASAP

 

Stop talking sensible and rational. Just grab your fire and your pitchfork and join the mob. Everyone must go!!!

 

Hey Bobby I'm starting a "Trading Ben would be the dumbest thing ever" Club and I was hoping you would be my charter member. You down? All are welcome but you've been with me the most in vehemently defending Ben this year. You game?

 

I think Dejan is the best sportswriter in Pittsburgh. He's brutally honest and quick to correct himself. He seems to have a better sense of what's going in with each of the pro team than anyone else.

So...I'd take Dejan on this over Rappaport. Totally.

 

Yes.

I just don't see how trading the best player that you have can be seen as a positive.

 

ESPECIALLY when your best player is a franchise qb. Maybe we could get the Bills to trade us EJ Manuel???

 

If there's any shred if truth to this story I'd have to think that it's Ben's way of saying Haley has to go. Maybe it's his way of telling the Steelers that its either Haley or himself. One has to go. I'm hoping that its Haley!

 

I just watched a video of Ben saying he does not want to be traded, and that the story of him wanting to be was total bs, said he wanted to stay a steeler the remander of his Carear

 

You've got to wonder how this stuff even gets started. I mean, does the reporter just totally fabricate the story or is there maybe some shred of truth to it somewhere that's just blown out of proportion?

 

I think he reads certain message boards and certain posters that say certain things. LOL.

 

Terrific dig on these numbers. Do you have a source? Further proof that Brady is a byproduct of the best offensive system in the NFL. Cassel even had success there.

 

It's seen as a positive because he's a declining asset that will be worth nothing in a few years, so why not get something for him while we still can? The team is a complete mess, we aren't going to compete any time soon. What's the point of paying an aging QB that much money if we have no realistic chance at winning? Why not rebuild, which involves getting as many prospects and picks as possible.

Yeah, maybe we draft a QB and he doesn't pan out, that's possible, but it puts us in the exact same spot we're in now, a team that can't compete.

 

Everyone jumps on Ben and his tendency to hold the ball for too long. They weren't *****ing when he was collecting trophys though. Bottom line is, he's had to improvise for so long that he's geared to accept the obvious and wired to try to make lemonade out of the lemons he's given.

Hes been trying to get the ball out a lot more lately when the plays busted, but seriously... What the hell do you expect when the ball is snapped and he's mauled 1 second later? It's terrible.

screw it, I know the rules have changed but the one thing that has not is the need for a gamer at your QB spot. If this team would craft a line for Ben as should've been done 6 -7 years ago, we'd have a few less threads to reply too.

As it is though... Everyone wants to compare and contrast elite statuses while not factoring in the true picture. If Ben was Peyton, or Brady we have no shot at the 2 out of 3 rings we have to date since his arrival. Brees is a baller so I don't bring him into the comparison. Bree's would be successful wherever grass stain accumulations occur. The other 2 fold up for the day and call it a game when they get dirtied up!

Ben wasn't ever gonna rewrite history, but he knows how to win even when everyone around him goes out of their way to make it harder to do so. Hes a stud and I prefer no one else. Just hope he stays cause this ain't our fathers league anymore so anything is possible! Sure he has his moments, but he's been pretty good at cleaning em up even if the rest of us have heart attacks in the process!

 

Or maybe we start drafting a handful of idiots at QB that never pan out. A la the Browns, Bengals, etc... We have a stud for the next little bit that honestly can still get it done. But truthfully if such scenario occurred, we ain't getting Jack for him since as you put it, he's a declining asset. I'll take the ornament and hope the front office does what is right and patches up the b.s. We can be competitive for the next 3-5 years if we just cover the obvious.

 

It was on the cover of the tabloids, right under the story about Bat boy!

 

Yup. At least they have been trying for the last couple of years, but it's a little too late.

We don't trade Ben. We are one LT away from being one of the top 4 AFC teams. Draft a bunch of size-speed-strength guys on defense and we'll be sitting pretty. We do need some infusion of nasty, though, which is why Taylor Lewan kills two birds with one stone.

Lock down Ben's blind side and our offense starts churning.

 

A LT isn't going to improve Ben's ability to read defense or throw better with anticipation. A LT isn't going to make Ben a better timing and rhythm passer or improve the mental aspect of Ben's game. A LT isn't going to dramatically improve the overall scoring of the offense. It's safe to say by now that the offense is never going to be a top 5 scoring offense regardless of the players placed around Ben. Ben isn't a QB that leads an offense that produces points with the best scoring offenses in the league. Without a top 5 ppg defense Ben isn't the type of QB that carries the team to wins either. It is what it is at this point.

The Steelers need to improve the defense if they are to have any chance of making it back to the SB with Ben.

 

Trade Ben while he's still worth something, Gradkowski can do the same job as Ben or maybe better since he's healthier and has quicker feet. Ben is old, slow, beat up and dumb. He's perfect for Steelers West, if they want him that bad and Ben misses playing for his boyfriend,( Bubble head BA) then we should get something back. This team needs to replace Ike, Troy and Clark before we can even think of another SB run, and when those players have developed, Ben will be long gone, or at least should be long gone, you never know with this team anymore.

 

Right there Jim you lost all credibility with me and I stopped reading.....Grad as good or BETTER than Ben? REALLY??!!??

 

He hasn't played a regular season game yet,, at this point of Bens career Grad can do the same job for less money. We could use the money we save from Ben for other areas. They could sign free agents with Ben's money. Do what we have done in the past and what KC,Seattle and 49er's did, build the D while you're looking for your future QB. Ben is floating the ball all over the place, anybody can do that for less $$

 

Ben's cap hit is $17.9 million in 2014 and $17.4 million the following year. If he were traded in the offseason the Steelers would eat more than $11 million in dead money. Gradkowski's claim to fame is a win over the Unleashing Hell Steelers in 2009. Other than that he is a journeyman QB who is on his 6th team. Trading Ben would not make sense financially nor competitively.

 

I never said that you claimed they were accurate. You posted a link and I simply gave my opinion on the stats.

The facts also show the oline has been garbage and as a result the running game has been non-existent and as a result the passing game has suffered. All I'm saying is that you cannot say that Ben is the sole problem with the offense of this team. Nothing more, nothing less.