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Better Play design probably helping Mcfarland

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by PWP, Aug 7, 2023.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Because Austin is a Wr just because He on the field tips nothing Hes just another Wr....whereas McFarland is a rb. You said Yourself You don't care about running up the middle with Him, but for wheel routes, or screens....how long do You think the Defense takes to figure that out....half a quarter???
     
  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. Thanks
     
  3. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    That is an issue. Harris thrives on getting enough carries. Warren is too good not to get a share. Pickens needs to get the ball more. Austin has already shown more as a playmaker than McFarland. So has Heyward. That is without even getting into Johnson and Freiermuth. That is a lot of mouths to feed, all of them better than McFarland and some of them have shown more ability to make big plays.
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. Never mind dude. LoL
     
  5. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Christ, man. I got it. It was a solid point you both made. Let it go.
     
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  6. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough.
     
  7. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    What??? I let it go....I said never mind....sorry ....I always thought that meant I was done....you know never mind....:shrug:
     
  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    The guy has been in the league for three years. It won't take them that long.
     
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  9. jeh1856

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    Well if I’m reading this right you are telling them it’s a gadget play
     
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  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    McFarland is a very good route runner, he can do a heck of a lot more than wheel routes and screens, lol.

    Some of you are trying very hard to tear this kid down.

    I imagine most of his use will be lining up as a receiver and not so much taking handoffs. But he has improved in that regard as well, he’s learning how to follow his blocks as opposed to college and just using his speed.

    Why would anyone be against more weapons. Not even PWP is saying he will get the lions share of the work. I’ll take a play or two a game that goes for 15-20 yards and maybe a couple HR hits over the course of the season.
     
  11. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    He has one or two plays if 15-20 yards in three years in the NFL and no home runs. I don’t have to tear him down. I just have to see him for what he is. I’m not against keeping him on the roster. I am against giving him touches that should go to better players.
     
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  12. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He’s not though. Scribe and STD are overstating that they are tipping their hand. They are painting him as a Dri Archer and he’s not that.

    He’s 208lbs not a buck75. His pass protection isn’t great but he can slow them down a little at that weight.

    Unless they surprise us and cut him today, he’s going to get the opportunity whether fans like it or not.
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Disingenuous take.
     
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  14. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    It’s not that he lacks the size to pick up blitzes. He just sucks at it. He showed it again in preseason. Even the undersized linebacker from Pitt, Dennis, ran through him.

    He is bigger and stronger than Archer. He is even a little better as a runner, but he has shown the same weaknesses.
     
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  15. S.T.D

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    Read again....I didn't say that's all He could do....I said if that was what the guy I was commenting on was saying that's all He could do then that is a tell. Maybe read back sometimes. Because I never said that.
    Also....where have You seen these very good routes????
     
  16. S.T.D

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    You need to go back ,and read what was written that I was, and @Formerscribe@Formerscribe were commenting on. The way He was talking was a sure fire tell.
     
  17. METALMAN_68

    METALMAN_68 Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say that's all McFarland can do. I merely suggested two plays I pulled out of my arse. If you or Scribe don't feel he can contribute, that's your opinions and you both present valid points. I have my own opinion that I don't feel like spending 5 pages trying to defend. At the end of the day, I don't care if McFarland touches the ball all year. However, if he can be at all productive with a few plays here and there, I'm not going to worry about the touches he's taking from other players. Whole lotta "ifs" there.
     
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  18. S.T.D

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    I didn't say You said that's all He could do, but I wasn't going to type everything You said....I was making a point to blast. GEEZZZZ people. I thought we said forget it. LoL. I did until people bring Me into it. I never brought Your name into it. I said the guy...I also said if You read again.....If....If the guy I was commenting to thought that's all He could do. LoL
    Feeling guilty, or something??? LoL
     
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  19. Formerscribe

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    How so? You are projecting him to do things he hasn't done. Running backs don't usually take four years to develop enough to contribute. Maybe it takes them time to learn to run proper routes or pick up blitzes, but if they are good, they can usually contribute right away.
     
  20. Blast Furnace

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    Because you make it sound like he has played a full three seasons and hasn’t done anything. He’s barely played in those seasons. He’s had injuries and better players ahead of him. He was having a good camp last year and Warren came out of no where and put an end to that. This year they see enough in him to have cut Snell.

    This season here will be when we get to see what he is capable of. His college tape is littered with big play capability. He’s a change of pace back, PWP and I aren’t pitching some revolutionary idea, most teams have them. Adds another wrinkle and something else for defenses to defend.

    And thats not true, first of all it’s 3 seasons he’s starting his 4th now. Regardless of position, sometimes it takes players longer. JH is the biggest example of that.
     
  21. Formerscribe

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    He has been there three seasons and hasn't done anything. That he wasn't good enough to get the ball more is not a good thing. That he wasn't good enough to remain on the roster all of those three seasons is not a good thing. That an undrafted free agent blew by him on the depth chart and knocked him off the 53-man roster last year is not a good thing. It's not disingenuous at all to hold all of that against him.

    They already have a change-of-pace back. That's part of what Warren provides. Again, it's as if neither of you saw him blow past one of the better safeties in the league when he raced 62 yards for a touchdown against the Bills' starters.
     
  22. Blast Furnace

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    You were implying he was a starter for three seasons and did nothing.

    No it clearly doesnt mean it wasn’t a good thing considering he is still here and getting his opportunity.

    Yeah, Warren is not a change of pace back. He’s the same type of back as Harris. Do you really not know the difference?
     
  23. BURGH43STEL

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    Mcfarland is a change of pace RB that doesn't run with power. Mcfarland struggles in pass protection. Special teams player/change of pace RB.

    I don't think the Steelers anticipate him being an offensive starter or 3rd down RB.
     
  24. Formerscribe

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    No, I never implied that. I don’t even see how you got that from what I wrote.

    Warren is smaller, quicker, and more explosive. I think it is you who is missing the definition of change of pace. You seem to want the definition to be a guy who can't run with physicality to help make your case for McFarland.
     
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  25. Formerscribe

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    I quoted my post just to clarify. Nothing in my post implies that he was a starter. What it does is acknowledge that he has been in the league for three years without producing much of anything. You sound like a Mason Rudolph apologist, acting as if the only thing holding him back is that he just didn't get enough opportunities.
     

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