Bench Ben

I thought I was the only one noticing this.
Plus I watched Canada's offense in LSU ....it was a terrible thing, and they magically got better when He was gone.

 

No I agree He is not what He was. I've never doubt it, but as I have watched every game twice this Year ....He is far from the problem.
Ask Yourself this. We know Mahomes is a Awesome Qb....Why with His newly built O-line, and terrible D....is He struggling for Wins.
So I agree Ben is not What He was ....He still is better than What We have, and Half the Starting Qbs in the NFL.
Is just funny 2 Me When a perceived Great Qb 2 some Outside of the Steelers struggle its what's around Him, but if it's a Steeler Qb (Ben) with some of the same things happening....it's all on Him. That's all I'm really saying.

 

Don’t forget that on every long run that Harris makes outside of one, it’s always called back for holding. But benching Ben will fix that.

 

That's one of those situations where you can't make an apples to apples comparison because for each individual there are unique circumstances. Take WR for instance. In Ben's case throughout his career his receivers have known when the play breaks down and Ben scrambles to create time you break off your route and try to get open so he can find you. From Ward and Buress to Holmes and then AB, Wallace and even Eli Roger's. Now you have a your group with Juju being the most senior, a new position coach and new OC. How do they balance doing what they are instructed to do and what Ben wants? You look at Brady's career and his plays are specifically design to create a matchup and exploit it. If it is a designed drag route you run the route doesn't matter if Gronk has a step or Evans beat his man off the line, Brady is looking at the drag route. Bortles 4 years ago was in no way close to Ben but his coach and team knew his limitations and created a perfect offense for that situation. High percentage low risk passes strong run game and don't get behind in the count.

 

What do you have to lose at this point? Ben is a statue and is going to get killed EVERY GAME. He can't move. He has issues planting to throw. A bulk of his passes are off the mark.

But it's a moot point. He will drag his beaten @ss out there until he has a major injury. And to think Tomlin has the stones to bench him are crazy.

Starting Rudolph would make sense at this point.

 

That there are many other problems on this team does not mean that Roethlisberger's poor play isn't hurting them. The defense showed in the opener that it can be very good if they can get some players back.

Roethlisberger can't make the throws any longer. Every deep ball is off target. He refuses to even try throwing over the middle. He will rarely line up under center. His weaknesses are severely limiting to the offense. There seems to be little chance any of this will change.

Of course, there are other problems on offense. Ebron is useless. That is why he should be losing playing time. The offensive line is terrible, but at least there is the potential for some of those guys to get better. Dotson, Greene, and Moore may not be good now, but there is at least the possibility that they can help the team in the future. By all means, bench Okorafor or Turner, even just to change things up, as neither is a viable option long term and neither is getting the job done now.

There is no long term for Roethlisberger. This is it, and it is ugly. That is why it is absolutely valid to consider benching him, at least until the latest injury is healed. I'm not sure if it will help, but maybe they could at least use the whole playbook.

 

Also consider that if you Bench Ben you can expect his passive Aggressive BS to come back full swing. Ben is not the type to realize the painful truth and take this like a good soldier. He will derail this team even worse with how he behaves. The man is a Narcissist thru and thru. Consider the reason he is still here, Cause he doesn't know how or when to let go and i would bet my bottom dollar that he doesn't like the idea of not being in the limelight anymore. Ben will drift off into obscurity very fast once his Playing days are over. He is not really all that endeared to the city as a person (as a player yes but but not as a person).

 

Hate to say it but that boat has sailed his passive aggressive Don't give up don't quit this is the Steelers quote from yesterday is a direct shot at everyone else but him.

 

As a fan I'm tired of it. I don't know how the players, staff and ownership aren't as well.

 

It's like the Hilton thing. How he is butt hurt about the Steelers not throwing money at him in a year where the cap was just not friendly to a lot of teams is just sad. Him getting his new team fired up to show his old team up is sad and kinda pathetic considering the Steelers gave him a career when most other teams wouldn't. Let's be fair too we aren't taking about a great position player. His biggest skill was a nickel blitz and not getting blocked and being willing to tackle. He isn't Revis so why his head exploded who knows.

 

Oops my bad, I thought the original quote was in reference to Ben and his usual post game quotes.

 

Ben made some post game quote where he said his teammates shouldn't quit or give up because it's not the Steeler way. Now that is tough to do when the guy who is team Captain has stunk it up more than he ever has before. Kinda like hey guys you should try harder even though I'm the one who sucks.

 

11 years S.T.D.. Fans are tired of the spinning wheels. Changes are being made, Ben is finally on the list. Lots of "i told you so" gratification & loyal fans ready for something new.

 

Neither one of those guys is the long term answer

 

Well Dobbs is on IR, he can't return this season, Haskins sucks.

 

Oh, he has been that bad or worse before, and not just in recent seasons. Think about some of those stinkers in 2006.

 

So does Dobbs.

 

Ben also is the first to admit he needs to play better.

 

No disagreement from me, I knew he didn't have it when he failed in that Raiders game when Ben got injured.

 

The season is over so I would let Ben play the next 2 games for this reason. You don't want to have Rudolph try and go toe to toe with Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau for his first game. A 42-14 loss would be soul crushing for Rudolph and would mentally affect him for the rest of the season.
The next week is Denver and their excellent defense which means let Ben take his lumps against them. However the next week is Seattle who has a horrendous pass defense. Let Rudolph make his first start against the Seahawks and get some success against them to build on for the rest of the year. Sure Wilson will put up 35 or 40 on us but if Rudolph can put up around 24 at home on the Seahawks then he will have the crowd behind him.

 

Did he practice Wednesday? " Ben's day?"
Until he does better and the work shows on the field it's lip service. I need to play better in other news scientists discovered water is wet and North Dakota is the anus of the universe..

So in review Ben said I need to play better last week after leading the team to a loss and this week he needs to play better but guys shouldn't quit even though he basically did yesterday.

 

Not to bring this up again (but I will), two years ago I questioned the wisdom of trading away a first round pick for a safety, when the QB situation was so precarious.

My point was that a great safety, like Minkah, is a luxury, while a franchise QB is a basically a must have in order to win SBs. It's a QB league and that's where success starts and ends to a large degree. At the time of the trade Ben was hurt and we had no idea what his future would hold. Regardless, he wasn't going to get younger. In that situation I maintained that a first round pick was just too valuable in terms of being able to pick a franchise QB or package that pick to move up to get a franchise QB.

Of course, none of us know what the Steelers would have or could have done with a 2020 first round pick, but just saying that once it was traded the team was stuck with Ben and now those chickens are coming home to roost. Made no sense IMO, either at the time or now, to spend that first rounder on a safety when you didn't have a QB. Not saying there would have been a QB available, but you have to leave yourself the option and every asset possible to secure the QB position. Certainly before the safety position.

 

OK. How many people actually watched the Game??? Honestly??? It is freaking hard 2 talk about a game with people that seen Highlights, charts ,and what other people told them 2 think, but didn't watch the freaking game.
I mean How is it We make excuses for other Qbs , but not Your own.
I can right Now point 7 people on Here who have made excuses for other Qbs not winning ,or Wrs dropping balls, but when it comes 2 Steelers it's all Ben's fault. This is the part I don't get.
Offense on the other team scores...Ben's fault, Wrs drop balls Ben's fault, D gets no hits on the Qb Ben's fault, Ben gets Hit throwing the Ball gets picked Ben's fault, Ben goes 2 throw sees someone coming , trys 2 buy time so He doesn't get Hit and throw a pick.....Ben Holds on 2 it 2 long. Ben gets rid of it faster than anyone in the league....He doesn't wait for routes 2 develop. Ben throws deep 2 the middle of the field ....He never throw 2 the sidelines. Ben throws 2 the sidelines ....He never throws 2 the middle of the field.. Ben never checks down 2 the Rb.....Ben checks down 2 N.Harris ...All He wants 2 do is check down 2 Harris. You do know this is the same people saying the same things. They all can't be correct. That makes No freaking sense. You know who You are, and Yet the others Don't see it being said. LoL.