Ben Roethlisberger Says Terry Bradshaw Is Greatest Steelers Quarterback Of All-Time

James Harrison, Troy, Hines Ward, Heath, Max Starks, Woodley, Aaron Smith, Santonio, Jerome Bettis

I’d say Ben had plenty of HOF - All pro help in that group. Now you want to compare the coaches? Maybe you’ve got something there.

Ben was great, but in terms of post season performance, there’s no comparison

 

Pauncey, Faneca, Antonio, Le'Veon, Villanueva, DeCastro, Hampton, Keisel, Randle El..

Tons of talent.

 

Bradshaw would have won more championships with the talented teams we had during the Ben era.

 

I will say, TB had a lot of help from Swannie -

 

James Harrison had a dominant run and was a great player, but probably won't be HOF because he didn't do it long enough. He only had a run of 5 great years. That's it.

Troy was a genuinely great player and a Hall of Famer. A true difference maker on defense and first ballot HOF. One of the greatest players ever.

Hines Ward was terrific, but I love how everyone conveniently forgets that Ben is the one that extended Ward's career. Ward couldn't get open in man coverage against me his last 4 seasons. Ward still put up numbers because Ben would extend plays and find Ward in the confusion. Hines was great at finding open areas, great hands, and was tough as nails. He just probably never gets in the HOF because he wasn't a dynamic player.

Heath Miller was a very good tight end. We all loved him. But he wasn't a HOF player. Again, he wasn't dynamic enough and didn't put up the numbers that will get him there.

Max Starks was an average player at best. I can't believe you would mention him as a HOF player. Ridiculous.

Woodley had 4 good seasons, that's it. Drafted in 2007. Was good from 2008 to 2011. Then had 10 total sacks in his last 4 seasons combined. Are you kidding me with this list of great HOF players? What a joke

Aaron Smith was a great run stuffing DE, but he was drafted in 1999. His last season that he did anything was 2008 with 5.5 sacks. The last 3 years he played in exactly 15 games with 2 total sacks in those 3 years and retired in 2011. Smith had 44 sacks in his 13 year career. Ben had a really good player for about 5 years. He isn't getting into the HOF.

Santonio Holmes was a good receiver. He had moments, but he wasn't a great player. He was only with the Steelers from 2006-2009. He only had one 1000-yard season. WTF?

Jerome Bettis. A genuinely great HOF player that Ben got to play with as an old man that couldn't play anymore. Ben's tackle after Bettis' fumble against the Colts saved Bettis' ass in the playoff win and led to the Super Bowl victory that season in 2005 that everyone seems to be bashing Ben about. That tackle by Ben may have gotten Bettis into the HOF. Ben played with only old Bus for 2 seasons. WTF are you talking about using him as an example of a great player Ben played with? He had him for 2 years as an old man and Ben saved his ass on the field....not the other way around.

 

Which of those players are going to the Hall of Fame, and how long did Ben play with them?

 

Big difference in great, and HOF players. Otherwise....there wouldn't be a HOF.

 

Again big difference between HOF players, and talented players. Otherwise there wouldn't be a HOF. You know this. Bradshaw played with 9 HOF players, and that's not counting the other talented players. Again You know this.

 

Starks was better than average, he was overlooked in pro bowl selection even though he performed just as well as those who got in for a number of years. Anyway, your splitting hairs and being a little anal here. The difference in support Terry had versus what Ben had doesn't make up for the huge difference in super bowl stats. 2005 to 2010 the Steelers were a super bowl level team with their share of HOF'ers. Lets go to super bowl ratings; Terry had a rating of what, 112.5? Ben's was in the 60's? Terry was 4-0 with 2 MVP's, Ben was 2-1 with 0? Check the TD and INT%. Ultimately its the QB that makes the plays and Terry came up with more. He's in the big game conversation with Montana and Brady, not Ben. Sorry, Ben's great, and he may have better overall stats, but not in the post season.

 

Troy, Faneca, Hines Ward, James Harrison are all HOF worthy. And then theirs the pro bowlers, do you really think Terry's difference in super bowl stats over Ben are because he had a few more HOFers?

 

I'm sorry, this isn't personal. You are the one that listed those players as HOF worthy players that Ben played with. Arguing that Starks was better than average as proof Ben had even close to equivalent talent to Bradshaw around him is just wrong.

There is a huge difference in the talent surrounding the quarterbacks. You list all those players as HOF worthy players Ben has played with. Only Troy was on the level of the players on those 70's teams. Also, Ben only played with some of these guys for a year or two, or when they were old men for a couple years or when a great player was just starting his career and he played with them for a few years. It's a totally different way of building rosters in each quarterback's time. Ben had a revolving door of players, where he had to constantly develop on-field chemistry with his changing talent. Terry had much more talent, plus he had the luxury of playing in the days before free agency when teams kept their players for their entire careers until free agency began.

It doesn't even compare to having Webster, Franco Harris, Rocky Blier, Lynn Swann, Stallworth, Greene, LC Greenwood, Ham, Lambert, Blount, and Donny Shell on his team and on the field playing with him for basically his entire career. If you can't see that, then there really is nothing to talk about because you are just denying the obvious. Terry Bradshaw played with the greatest collection of talent ever assembled on a football field at one time.

Terry Bradshaw played 19 playoff games. His record was 14-5. He completed 57.2% of his passes, 3833 yards with 30 TDs , 26 INT, 10 fumbles, and was sacked 24 times.

Ben Roethlisberger played in 23 playoff games. His record was 13-10. He completed 63.2% of his passes, 5972 yards with 36 TDs, 28 INT, 8 fumbles, and was sacked 53 times.

Both were great players in my mind. Both played in drastically different circumstances from a talent perspective and in the style of play at the time that they both played.

 

it just wasn't that huge of a difference in talent or even consistency (check the starting lineups of 74 and 79) as your making it out to be. Not to the point in implying that Ben would've done better with the dynasty team than Terry did. Isn't that what your saying? I think the reverse is true.

 

Of course Bradshaw is. 4 super bowls and many afc champ game appearance in others.

 

Actually, I'm saying that I'm perfectly happy with the way things worked out with both of them. I'm not trying elevate Ben over Bradshaw. I just get tired of people that think Ben should have won 6 Super Bowls with all that talent around him. These people are out of their minds. If Terry couldn't do it with that roster, how the hell was Ben supposed to win all these Super Bowls that fans keep going on about?

These people are out of their minds, and just like to bash Ben.

 

Bradshaw was still a below average QB in 1974 especially in the regular season...He did just enough in the playoffs but he was still far from becoming what he became in 1975 and after

 

Personally there are a bunch of people in the HOF that I don’t think belong there

But I have high standards

 

LoL. Do You really think there isn't a difference in HOF players, and good players??? Enough. You won't even consider it. Again You keep bringing up names that are not in the HOF, and comparing them to one's that are...., and even using guys that only played two seasons with Ben....compared to HOF that played their whole career with Bradshaw. Also is really funny that a bunch of You say Tomlin is a terrible coach, but somehow don't see that having an effect with Ben. If You don't think having the best coach, the best player, and 9 HOF players as a boon over not having them....what more can be said????

 

6 super bowls is a bit high on the expectations for Ben and the team he had, so I get what your saying. Though I do feel like they underperformed and left a few playoff wins, at least, on the table. That’s not Ben’s fault. I blame more on the defense and coaching. Tomlin is not Noll, Cowher is not Noll either. Terry was fortunate in that regard as well as having a defense that could make more stops and get him the ball back. But Terry did the rest, just a phenomenal passer in high pressure situations.

 

Casey Hampton and Aaron Smith should be Hall of Fame, they were the best to do it at their respective positions in the 3-4, but they played thankless positions that weren't meant to rack up stats. The Sports Writers that vote on this stuff are stat chasers.

Hines Ward is the greatest Steelers WR I've seen with my own two eyes. He is a HOF'er in my eyes, stats be damned. Yes A.B. was more talented, but he crashed and burned.

What is supposed to get you into the Fall of Fame, because Harrison has one of the greatest plays in Super Bowl History? You can say his career was short, but so was Gale Sayers and Lynn Swann?

 

there is a difference, of course. You’re not getting what I was trying to say. Ben and Terry were both great QB’s. Both Physically gifted, tough, could read defenses (although I think Terry probably spent more time in the film room). Just that Terry came up bigger in the post season, and i wouldn’t take away from that just because he had a great HOF team around him - those TD’s he threw were all him. And they both had great receivers to throw to.