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Ben Claims He Called Plays Not In The Playbook

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by truckin9999, Sep 24, 2012.

  1. 4EvrH8O'donnel

    4EvrH8O'donnel Well-Known Member

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    Bench him! Bench him right now for trying to win games! After the benching send him to 3rd string clip board holding duties. Get Charlie from Homestead in there to show him how its done both on the field and off of it. Just to show him who is really boss make him play when the baby is being born. Once his kid is born send him to the unemployment line so he can hopefully live under a bridge. Once he is at Wharf Rat status make sure there is a drive by just to finish him off.

    OMG - I CAN'T BELIEVE A QB CALLED HIS OWN PLAYS! Peyton Manning would have never had success doing such a thing.
     
  2. numbah58

    numbah58 Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'm usually with you guys defending #7 in these types of threads.
    However, there's very little "hate" going on here.
    I didn't see one post suggesting that Ben shouldn't call his own plays. The issue is that #7 is saying that he was calling plays from the past -paraphrasing-. If that's not throwing Haley under the bus, intentionally or not, I don't know what is.
    There's right and there's wrong and what #7 did to Haley is wrong IMO.
     
  3. Bleedsteel

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  4. FeelTheSteel

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    Wow.

    If I took that to the bank I'd be hit with overdraft fees.

    There is no way in HELL that Benjamin Todd Roethlisberger will EVER be an offensive coordinator or a head coach in the NFL. Or were you referring to Findlay High School's OC or HC?
     
  5. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why Ben needs to tell this to the media.
     
  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Speaking for myself numbah, the title of the thread is Ben Claims He Called Plays Not In The Playbook, and so in response to that, I say big deal, it worked. It's not about what Ben should of said or not said. It's probably one instance where it would have been better to keep it to himself but apparently it didn't cause any trouble. I haven't heard anything further on it and Haley wasn't going nuts on the sidelines when Ben was calling these plays. I'd say it's a non issue.
     
  7. 58stillers

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    Ben also came back out to clarify his comments. Sounds like a mountain out of a mole hill..... probably briefly answered a question from an Arians sympathizer reporter that got twisted. Go back to steelersdepot and look for the clarification. It's really a non-story. Offense performed just fine this weekend, and there's no internal haley/ben drama.
     
  8. numbah58

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    Tomlin Era,
    I agree it's a non-issue.
    I had already broken the TV and kicked the dog so I should have had it out of my system by then.
    This one stung extra bad and I'm not used to "banging" on the defense so I went after the obvious.
    I must admit though that I still think that Ben needs to be a little more media savvy.
     
  9. gpguy

    gpguy Well-Known Member

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    Typical idiotic edog response! Just ignore this post everything and keep on going with the discussion, ahaha.
     
  10. gpguy

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  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I really would be funny if it's just Ben messing with the media and fans and then watching them get their panties in a bunch (not you numbah, I know you usually have Bens back).
     
  12. PWP

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    Well he should have called a run after we went for it on 4th. down and got it....

    We need someone who has a pulse on the game not sure we have anyone who understands situational football....

    We need a FG to win and have a short clock and only need 30 or 40 yards or so...No reason not to try and finish the game on the ground at least we would have took all the clock away and had a shot in OT even if we couldn't run...
     
  13. Iowasteeljim

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    I'm sure the media didn't stretch this into a story that wasn't one to begin with too! I mean no one ever reacts to this stuff so why even publish it? On the flip side, maybe the defense should be out there calling plays that aren't in the play book, what could it possibly hurt at this point?
     
  14. Lizard72

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    Actually he's not finished!

    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/09/ro ... ders-game/

    Why on the world would you anounce to everyone that you're using some hand signals that mean certain things in a game situation? WTF is he thinking or not thinking? Might as well through those out now, because every DB/LB that's worth anything will be watching that tape and figuring out the hand signals he was talking about. Stupid yap-pity yap dumb ass!
     
  15. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    Ben also went on to say that he talks with his close friend, Bruce Arians, every week.

    Let me ask you this, if you've been promoted to a supervisory position and your key employee essentially says that he is doing things the way the old boss said to do them, and then tells you that he talks to his old boss on a weekly basis, how would you feel? Haley seems like a guy that may wear his feelings on his sleeve a little bit so this is not something that should be taken lightly. The first thing Ben needs to do is SHUT UP! He needs to stop telling the medial what great friends he and BA are and that they still talk every week because when he does do something like call plays (or hand signals) or whatever he did Sunday that's from the old boss's playbook, it may get blown out of proportion. Ben needs to think before he speaks.


    Still, asked about his close relationship with Arians, who is now the Colts’ offensive coordinator, Roethlisberger said, “We talk every week.”

    Read more: http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/266 ... z27a092pBz
    Follow us: @triblive on Twitter | triblive on Facebook
     
  16. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Todd Haley responded to questions about this earlier. Here's a quote:

    "Everybody has to understand that the ability to go to no-huddle you have to rely on hand signals. A lot of our work through the offseason, the OTAs and that in training camp is coming up with the signals. We have a lot of plays with a lot of different hand signals that go along with it. It is a complicated process. If there is something that relates in the past that everybody knows that can be used that's what we do. It is a complicated but very simple deal. The plays are the plays and attached to them is a hand signal that you physically tell everybody without any verbal communication."
     
  17. Blast Furnace

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    LOL, this is a first, a mountain made out of a molehill made out of another molehill in the same thread :lolol: :facepalm:
     
  18. Lizard72

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    I don't care about the Haley stuff. Why call attention to a certain play and adjustment with a hand signal when you don't have to. Remember Suggs INT? He said it was because he saw the head nod to the receiver and made a break on the ball. Earlier in the year Ben tells the media an adjustment with a head nod to the receiver. Let the opponents dissect tape don't just hand them a menu.
     
  19. Blast Furnace

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    I'm willing to bet there is a little more to it then that with the hand signals.
     
  20. Lizard72

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    Of course there's more to it, the point is good DC's look for indicators and coach the team to look for them. New England was fined for taping signals, you think it gave them no advantage? He just gave a specific play and adjustment tied to a specific signal he gave to Wallace. All you have to do in game review is look to see if it's repeated and coach your guys to jump that route in a game situation.
     
  21. Blast Furnace

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    I don't remember the article mentioning which plays he used it on, how would anyone know? And can't anyone for that matter just watch film and match up hand signals to each play that was run? No advantage was gained by Ben saying what he said.
     
  22. Lizard72

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    He mentioned specificly the 4th down play to Wallace and the third down play to Sanders and he specifically said it was a hand signal. I can't copy and paste it, I'm just saying it's better left unsaid.

    http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/09/ro ... ders-game/
     
  23. Iowasteeljim

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    But...DL is a good defensive coordinator right? What is he missing out there that all these other guys are taking advantage of? I agree, a mountain out of a molehill out of a molehill. And wasn't New England punished for taping signals from the sideline? I'm not sure I remember it being mentioned that they were targeting signals during the no huddle. As far as mentioning giving a signal during a certain play and who it went to, I didn't see in the article where he stated what the signal was. I must have missed that when I read it. I'm sure you can watch tape on any team and learn some of their patterns concerning signals but I bet it is only done in Pittsburg!
     
  24. Lizard72

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    Yes, you have to watch tape and figure it out, not get it from the QB's mouth. I'm pretty sure that an adjustment on a fourth down play that was critical in gaining the first down is kind of important.

    Where did I bring DL into this?

    All I'm saying is, you don't usually go talking about giving signals for certain plays or adjustments. You guys are saying it doesn't matter, we'll see.

    Yes that's exactly what they were punished for, but don't forget they were doing it for no competitive reason at all....
     
  25. edog55

    edog55 Well-Known Member

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    You know what gpguy, you got a big mouth. First in and earlier post you said that trash comes out of my mouth, now your saying that my responses are idiotic. You got a BIG MOUTH! I guess you feel like you can call people names and talk trash about them. I want you to know that I can say whatever I feel about the team and the players, its my right. You don't have to like it. I have never said any personal things about you or your post, so stop with the personal insults, keep them to yourself. If you don't like what I post, say what you want in response but don't make it personal! [spoiler2:22hvrqo5]If you do, I live in Bowie, Maryland and will give you the address.[/spoiler2:22hvrqo5]
     

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