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Bell will report week 7

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by MattyMo9, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    could care less, come back don't come back. He has talent and that with the right attitude could have made him great. He is one step removed from Ricky Williams in my opinion.
     
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  2. SteelerGlenn

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    Don't they own a casino and a horse track?
     
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  3. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Bell managed to run on the Ravens last year. He would have been better than Conner was Sunday night. It's time to stop with the silly notion that the Steelers aren't worse without Bell. They are clearly missing him and Sunday was the most clear demonstration of that yet.

    The fun part I read today is that the Steelers could slap a transition tag on him for $11.3 million in 2019. There is absolutely no way they should give him a big extension after this season. He showed a level of selfishness that makes it tough to trust him to put in the work once he gets paid. But if they can make things tougher on him and maybe get better compensation when he leaves, that would truly make me happy.
     
  4. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    It was my understanding that the Brothers that owned the casino and horse track had to sell their shares due to the leagues gambling rules. Part of the reason they had to have limited partners because Dan needed cash to buy them out.
     
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  5. thorn058

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    I didn't say he couldn't but not with the game plan they were using. The Oline had no push and they didn't use their best plays at all.
     
  6. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I don't buy that. You could make an argument like the article points out that D Will is a very good RB and not much of a drop off but when you compare Conners first 4 games to Bells first 4 games to last season, its pretty much the same.

    Bell

    Receiving:

    Tgt 6 Rec 3 yds 15
    Tgt 4 Rec 4 yds 4
    Tgt 7 Rec 6 yds 37
    Tgt 5 Rec 4 yds 42

    Rushing

    Att 10 Yds 32
    Att 27 Yds 87
    Att 15 yds 61 TD’s 1
    Att 35 Yds 144 TD’s 2


    Conner

    Receiving:

    Tgt 5 Rec 5 Yds 57
    Tgt 5 Rec 5 Yds 48
    Tgt 6 Rec 5 Yds 34
    Tgt 6 Rec 3 Yds 25


    Rushing

    Att 32 Yds 136 TD’s 2
    Att 8 Yds 17 TD’s 1
    Att 15 Yds 61
    Att 9 Yds 19


    AB gets double teamed whether Bell is here or not so he's not even making a difference that way with his absence. This isn't to say I don't think we are a better team with bell, we are, it just that there is no reason to believe he wouldn't have started the season the same way as last year after missing all of camp and preseason again.

    I believe their record would be the same with or without Bell to this point.
     
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  7. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Teams double Brown quite a bit, but it is harder for them to get away with it when Bell is playing. I also think the Steelers would be less inclined to completely give up on the run with Bell, and I'm not sure they would have had reason to do so. Last night there were runs that Conner wasn't quick enough, but I think Bell would have made them work. Of course, that is purely subjective, but I think last night was close enough in the second half that Bell could have made the difference.
     
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  8. defva

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    They sure do or did
     
  9. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    Nope ... I'm with you
     
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  10. thorn058

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    But don't you think there were plays that the entire offense could have made that would have been just as effective as well? The Ravens have never had an answer for the Steelers TE''s up the seam and that played out in the 1st half but completely abandoned in 2nd. They didn't use dual TE's at all for added protection or run blocking or even a pass. If Conner isn't quick enough on some of those holes use Ridley. Juju was money in the intermediate zones. Where were those plays in the second.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think Bell could do more with a poor blocking line, yes, if thats what you are saying.

    As we both said yesterday though, Ben missed several throws that were very costly. I think he is the biggest culprit for the loss.
     
  12. steelersrule6

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  13. steelcurtainmrp

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    source? where did he say that?
     
  14. steelcurtainmrp

    steelcurtainmrp Well-Known Member

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    Honestly surprised he isn't sitting out till week 10.
     
  15. thorn058

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    That whole tweet to me sounds like Bell is fishing. He will show up when he wants to or will get a teammate to talk about his deal and he will say he needs two more weeks to get in shsp.
     
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  16. Confluence

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    ok but to insert Bell in that scenario is a hypothetical, Conner can run but lets see what a Bell/ Conner backfield can do (hypothetically a lot better than 19 yrds. imo, no matter the o-line or stacked front Raven's D)
     
  17. D0bre Shunka

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    They could follow up with a transition tag which could make it rough on him.
    I don't the Rooney's doing so they are too nice and fair to departing players
     
  18. dirty

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    I think Conner is just in a bad spot. It doesn't help he barely gets any carries because are getting blown out from the start. I don't know how many teams with one of, if not, the worst defense in the league will have a league leading rusher. Except maybe the Lions back in the day with Sanders. :)

    So maybe Conner is just the type of back that needs more carries to get in a groove? Have no idea and just throwing things out, but I would really like to see how a game where we have an early lead and could just work running the ball more.
     
  19. Da Stellars

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    I’m curious how Connor would have faired in the Cowher Power days? Probably pretty well. Back then, running the ball was about cracking the wall until it comes down in the 4th quarter.


    I’d welcome Bell back, but the minute he sits out a few plays with a “injury” everyone will be skeptical. It’s just too hard to really trust if he will be all in.
     
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  20. blake duerden

    blake duerden Well-Known Member

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    They know how much their saving now. Go spend it on some D and run the bell cow while hes here and win some games.
    ..if he wanted to be a steeler for life he would have been here wk1.
     
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  21. zcoop

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    I don't buy that. The Rooney's are not only rich but they are wealthy, old money. They collectively own an NFL team worth around 1.5 billion and they are not rich? I would also venture to say that their financial portfolio is very sound.

    These folks know a thing or two about money and masking their net worth.
     
  22. Formerscribe

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    Part of the issue there was the offense couldn't get in rhythm because they couldn't convert on third down. Roethlisberger's lack of accuracy was a much bigger part of that than his decision-making or the play calls. He missed Brown twice on third down when he was open. He missed Conner on a second down when they ended up punting two plays later. Those are throws he needs to make.
     
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  23. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I agree regarding Roethlisberger.

    And yes, that is part of what I'm saying about Bell. I'm also saying the blocking might not be as poor as we thought. Conner seemed a step slow on a few plays when there was an opening. I think Bell would have gotten a lot farther on those plays.
     
  24. Busman

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    I cant wait until the first time he steps onto the field at home and hear the crowd booing him ( assuming they do (
     
  25. FootballAnalyst98

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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...s-slow-start-plan-for-josh-rosen-mack-for-mvp
     

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