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Bell Retiring?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelers '08, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Jeremy Fowler of ESPN was the one that started this mess, why ask a player about the franchise tag during the playoffs :facepalm:?
     
  2. Formerscribe

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    Because a reporter's job is to ask questions about topics of interest and pursue good stories. There is nothing wrong with a reporter asking the question. Bell could simply refuse to engage on the topic. It's on Bell to keep his focus on the task at hand.
     
  3. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Cut him loose regardless of what happens in the off-season. It's not worth dealing with this anymore.
     
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  4. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT Well-Known Member

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    1. The problem with paying Bell [#1 RB + #2 WR] money is that he’s only one guy. He goes down with an injury (again) or suspension(again), we lose both positions.

    2. There’s only so much gravy to go around. The Steelers spend money almost 2:1 on the offense v. defense. We aren’t going to be able to plug holes in the secondary and linebacker ranks with two salaries going to one player.

    3. There’s a deadline to sign the tag tender next fall. If he doesn’t sign by then, what’s the situation? Can he still play? Does the team still incur his cap hit?
     
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  5. turtle

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    Who brought up retirement in the interview? If Fowler brought it up then I think Bell is just trying to use whatever bargaining chip he can in his response. Either way, I think its an empty threat. Holdout yes, retirement no.

    He should play for free for having the great pleasure in dealing with Haley:lolol:
     
  6. M. Connors

    M. Connors Well-Known Member

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    This. The FO made good on its promise that a new stadium in ‘01 would mean retaining talent. Ben and AB are among the highest paid at their position. So are players like Pouncey and Decastro and Heyward at the time of their respective signings. Harrison got his big pay day when his contract was up as well. I think the Steelers have done an exceptional job at retaining talent, maybe even holding on too long in some cases - but hard to blame them given the success of “older” players on the ‘05 and ‘08 SB teams.

    Bell is an interesting case. Phenomenal running back, but has never finished a postseason on the actual playing field. He’s now finishing his 5th year in the league, has had a major knee surgery and a TON of touches in that time. He’s also one failed or missed drug test away from a major suspension. That being said, he’s not even 26 yet and appears to be in pique physical condition.

    I do think the Steelers ultimately got it right by franchising him in ‘17 and I have a gut feeling they will follow suit in ‘18 to buy time and see what Ben does after this (or next) season.
     
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  7. blake duerden

    blake duerden Well-Known Member

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    I believe adjustments for rbs or any concerns can be made in the contract..2-4 years is livable. He is an all purpose yards player and he contributes as much as top wrs and rbs. If for some reason it dont work, the contract will have some flex.
     
  8. Kreighoff

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    Being an old guy I long for the days when guys just played and didn't always try to bring the focus on themselves all the time. Maybe its just immaturity or the greed of his agent that is filling his head with these unrealistic demands.

    Hey Bell take a moment to look around the league and see the production from rookies or guys still under their first contracts. There are guys producing good numbers making one twentieth of your salary grow up.

    Yes your good very good but your not irreplaceable no one is.

    If we tag him again he will get depressed roll a big fatty then get suspended for a full year.
     
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  9. Steelers '08

    Steelers '08 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with the bad timing, but we don’t need to let him walk. He’s the most impactful player on our team. He can be the opponents whole defense game plan. We need to keep him around for a long time.

    That said he needs to show up these playoffs. He’s been hurt the last three years at some point in the playoffs.
     
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  10. Steelers '08

    Steelers '08 Well-Known Member

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    You have a point, but you really would be okay with Bell walking if he doesn’t get the amount he wants?

    I’m not, because it’s the same for all players. Like we paid Brown, but he’s going to reach a point where we’re tied to him and he’s breaking down, it’s football.

    Your rolling the dice on every player you sign to big money. Look at Dez Bryant in Dallas. He’s not close to what he was a couple years ago and they owe him a lot of money. So really it’s a bad business decision every time you pay a player long term, because of injury or just Father Time.
     
  11. rocketdog

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    That dope smoking idiot says this BS two days before our giant playoff game. He has done nothing in any playoff game. I wish they would get rid of that arrogant low IQ SOB.
     
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  12. Steelers '08

    Steelers '08 Well-Known Member

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    I agree he’s not retiring or sitting out because he wants his money obviously.

    I just remember Hines Ward always taking a hometown discount. Also Mike Wallace we didn’t pay and he was really good with us. Although it turned out to be a good thing because he was not good with other teams, but also played with terrible QB’s.

    I will say in the past 5-6 years they’ve been paying a lot better.
     
  13. jeh1856

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    Heck, let’s just cut him loose now so we don’t have to deal with him Sunday.
     
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  14. steelers5859

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    Brown has shown his durability and worth longer than Bell has. Bell is taking too many hits and carries that you can not justify paying him upward of 15 million a year. RBs lifespan is 3 years. If we can get a decent deal done I'm all for it but Bell will be asking more than we can afford to pay that position. With a franchise QB and franchise WR and a defense that still needs some pieces, Bell has perform out of our reach. It's sad but the true.

    With the amount of money we are going to pay Bell, we can get a draft pick, free agent and still have money left to sign other players.

    Now can we trim some fat from other players, absolutely, but what i don't want to happen is we tie so much money into another player where we have to let other significant players go and start degrading our team. If Ben comes back along with AB, we can have a running back by committee do what Bell does, not to the level of Bell, but good enough for us to still have a significant contribution from that position.

    Lastly, if you know the steelers history, we don't pay individuals that we see as a huge risk. Injuries, age, off field transgressions will get you run out of town. Plus, you are running your mouth about what you are worth? The Rooney's and Colbert don't play that. Wallace, Burgess, Holmes, Sanders all great players, some ran their mouth and they cut ties with them.
     
  15. Steelers-MT

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    Agree.
    He gets hurt most important games.
    I hope we win the Super Bowl and he leaves town.
     
  16. turtle

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    Why is everyone piling on Bell for injuries, guy gets hurt twice on two dirty hits by bengals. It's not like he's faking injuries. He's been an absolute work horse this season and is healthy for the playoffs. I hope he balls out..

    Is this the time for contract talk, absolutely not. Did he probably get drawn into a sore subject topic, more than likely. Some guys talk without thinking, it happens. I would bet he hasn't even talked to his agent about next years situation. He's focused on the games now imo.
     
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  17. blackandgoldpatrol

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    Trade him for a top 5 pick and draft saqqaan barkley
     
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  18. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting proposal
     
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  19. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    Bell has set the new trend... He can be replaced like it or not. More rb's coming into the position with more flexibility than before. I don't want them to set the new trend for the RB market with him personally as I think it establishes a standard a lot of us don't like... established whining, established falling short usefulness wise, established stupidity= getting an overdue reward? Suspension, injuries aside... He's been driven hard. Really hard! Wether or not his agent is already banging the pipes, he has our O'l D Will Twitter festing him hi 5's and pumping him up and spreading more BS.

    I don't know how much tread he has left, nor where his common sense is at currently... But I wouldn't set the precedence of over paying him regardless of what he brings. He's been phenomenal for sure in my opinion to the extent that he's been over relied upon if for no other purpose than team emotions. He goes down, they don't know what to do... Etc... When he's been needed, he ain't good to go (no fault of his own) but it's the tape on him.

    Hate to see him go but I believe in a team first mentality. If they seal the deal this year and he's still standing, his reported 15-17 mil request gonna go to 20... And supposedly it's not about the money!
     
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  20. Boomer

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    I know I’m sick of hearing him complain about money. He’s gonna make more playing football than most will make in 10 lifetimes. Just shut up and play. Good grief.
     
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  21. Boomer

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    The team has already seen how dangerous it is to have so much of your offense accounted for by one person. He goes down, you are screwed. And the Steelers aren’t paying him $17 million a year. It’s just not going to happen. Trade him to a bad team with a high pick and replace him. Be done with it. I’m sick of hearing about his whining. Let him whine someplace else.
     
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  22. dobbler-33

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    I hear ya, but in all fairness he's just an athlete mired in circumstances. He wouldn't pipe up (no pun intended) if these kids weren't coaxed up to beat their chests as such. I love the dude and what he brings, but the team will financially suffer and set examples that none of us "collectively want" in my opinion. He needs to check himself (which ain't gonna happen) or move on. To give him what he wants defies market logic and I don't want our team to set the precedence there with what will ultimately be remembered as buyer's remorse!
     
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  23. Rambro

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    Bell set franchise records in the playoffs last year remember? I also find it funny that folks still call marijuana "dope". When i think of the word dope opiates come to mind. But I guess some people still believe its right up there with heroin.
     
  24. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT Well-Known Member

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    Marijuana is in the same controlled substance schedule class as heroin, LSD, peyote, Qualuudes and ecstacy.
     
  25. Rambro

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    It sure is. I was just saying I think its funny that people still have a reefer madness mindset about it.
     
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