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Back to back HORRIBLE drafts. Tomlins infatuation with DMV players.

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by SDOT, Apr 26, 2020.

  1. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    You have to assume Ben’s gone by then. That’s going to free up space. I can see us going back to having most of our big contracts on D with relatively cheap offensive starters.
     
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  2. Stone

    Stone Well-Known Member

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    Let's hope that doesn't apply to the QB:drinks:
     
  3. SDOT

    SDOT Well-Known Member

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    Read his scouting reports

    He was the perfect replacement for Pouncey. Mocks in January had him going in 1st round around 20-25th pick. We could have stole him in the 4th instead of a Maryland RB.
     
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  4. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    How did talking about Fitz's elevating this years draft class slither down into some abyss of despair? All I was commenting on was weather the geniuses factored Minkah's inclusion into their evaluation of all teams draft picks and now were into contracts years from now and catastrophic injuries.
     
  5. Formerscribe

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    That scouting report doesn't support your assertion that he was one of the best pulling centers in the last decade.

    Overall, I've said all along that it was a mistake to pass on Biadasz, but it's a bit much to talk about him as a first-round talent given how late he was drafted.

    I thought they should have taken him in the third, but clearly the Steelers were right to pass then. They had two more shots at him. To be clear, I have no problem with either of the guys they took in the fourth round. I don't see them as reaches the way you do. I just think Biadasz is better.
     
  6. SDOT

    SDOT Well-Known Member

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    I can't find the article that said that anymore. I don't care when he was drafted. He had a 1st round grade on him last year and he decided to go back to school.

     
  7. HeinzMustard

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    Wasn't James Farrior a DMV player since he went to school at UVA? Jason Worilds was Virginia Tech and he was good in his last 2 years. I get the DMV moniker, but not all DC. Maryland and Virgina players are worthless.
     
  8. Formerscribe

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    I don't care what the grade was on him a full year before he was drafted. That is no longer relevant.

    He would have been a great value in the fourth round, but passing on him isn't nearly the disaster you are making it out to be.
     
  9. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Chase Young is a DMV player. I think just about anyone would have traded Dupree and all of our draft picks for him.
     
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  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Dotson was an All-American, not being invited to the combine not that big of a deal. They were looking for a change of pace RB, and they got one of the fastest ones in MacFarland.
     
  11. Stone

    Stone Well-Known Member

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    That's brilliant! You came up with a new name for HM! "Slither down into the abyss of despair"
     
  12. SDOT

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    Dri Archer. Jaylen Samuels. Where's the change of pace? Why don't we draft a Fournette or Henry? You know RBs that actually win playoff games.
     
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  13. Stone

    Stone Well-Known Member

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    Winning playoff games is dependent on two things that make the RB position meaningless:
    1. A coaching staff who can "get to" the playoffs.
    2. A coaching staff that can win a playoff game.
     
  14. Formerscribe

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    The only thing dumber than judging quarterbacks by wins and losses is judging players at other positions that way.

    So, the Steelers should be able to take players in the third and fifth rounds and get them to produce as well as guys taken No. 4 overall and early in the second round?
     
  15. SDOT

    SDOT Well-Known Member

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    Point is we need a bruiser RB. We had the best catching/running RB in a long time and it amounted to nothing. We need to somebody that is going to get 3-4 yards a pop no matter what like Fournette did to us and Henry to Patriots/Ravens.
     
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  16. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    We can't forget about Heeeath from the University of Va.
     
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  17. Lambert

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    Samuels was a 5th round hybrid RB/FB/TE guy. He's been a good receiver here. What the **** does that have to do with AMJ?

    Further, DMV college players tend not to be great since those area schools are not good at football. Diggs is a great talent but there aren't a lot. Where it comes to high school players in the DMV, many good ones come from the area but they go to college elsewhere. For example, the 2nd overall pick this year. I didn't love the two MD picks this year but a player's NFL chances are not dependent on his school's history of success. Lots of Alabama players bomb out in the NFL. Judge the player and leave the other bull**** out of it.
     
  18. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    MacFarland is nothing like Archer, he was small and really didn't have a position. The change of pace is MacFarland is fast, and Snell and Conner aren't.
     
  19. HeinzMustard

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    I can't believe I forgot about Heath Miller. :facepalm:
     
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  20. andy32

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    I believe the only team with a 1000 yard rusher to win the SB in the last decade was Seattle with Marshawn Lynch. The days of the bell cow seem to be at an end and hopefully Tomlin can see that now. Split carries and keep everyone fresh.
     
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  21. bigbenhotness

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    Gonna have to
     
  22. 86WardsWay

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    The time to split carries and keep everybody fresh was 2016 after DeAngelo Williams was tearing up the field all of 2015. I guess LeVeon Bell was pouting about his touches too much to MT so instead Bell was the feature back so much so that he was worn and torn going into the playoffs. Of coarse Bryant and immature AB were crying about their participation so the squeaky wheels got the grease and they ended up losing to a much less talented Donkeys team.

    Still can't believe they didn't use the two headed monster approach.

    I feel bad for DeAngelo having to ride the pine most of 2016.

    The problem with this team is, and always has been since the Chuck Noll days are selfish players controlling coaching decisions. Cowher had his faults and Tomlin does even more so.

    This draft ain't the worst by a long shot nor is it the best but if the HC can't get them to play together as a team it won't matter diddly squat anyways.
     
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  23. Brice

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    Minka should not be a problem to keep long term because Safeties are always on a discount compared to corners.
    And, right now he is on a significant discounted price as he left all his bonus money in Miami.


    Funny, If I am reading this correctly Safety is the lowest paid Defensive Position in the NFL
     
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  24. Brice

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  25. SGSteeler

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    The Edmunds bro’s went to Virginia Tech? They are from Maryland but I don’t see how that correlates... Jason Worilds neither played at or is from Maryland (VT and New Jersey)? What? Lol
     

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