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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    expected to free up 4 million.

    That's 28 million in restructuring. Signing Bell long term or bringing in big name FA?

     
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  2. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    Seeeee.....ole ye of little faith:smiley1:...... I think Cam can still be restructured too....stay tuned
     
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  3. thorn058

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    Restructuring leads to more restructuring which leads to guys making huge base salaries in year three and four which means cutting talent because you don't have the money to keep them at the inflated rate. But hey if it gets money for a solid FA I'm game.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Cap continues to go up. Should help offset some of that. Plus Bens contract likely will be off the books but then.
     
  5. thorn058

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    I don't have you guys optimism about restructuring because I have watched it cost to many of my personal favorites their job when the team needed money and the player still had at least a solid year or to left but again my favorites and probably my opinion too.
     
  6. jeh1856

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    I’m thinking that maybe, just maybe, the Steelers realize we are close to having a really good team, and maybe, just maybe they are going to try to fill in the blanks.

    And maybe, just maybe, I’ll eventually be tall, fast and good looking.
     
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  7. troybellringer55

    troybellringer55 Well-Known Member

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    Man we got more restructuring going on than Cher’s face.
     
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  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not really optimism, just facts. Bens only got 2 or 3 years left and the cap keeps going up. Both those things will definitely help with the consequences of kicking the can down the road.

    Just out of curiosity, who are the players you are referring to?
     
  9. thesteeldeal

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    Your concerns are legitimate, but don't we have to try? We can't just sit back and do nothing when we are trying to win a SB and we have holes to fill. In Khan we trust....
     
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  10. thorn058

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    Heath and Ward for sure, I don't think you can ever have a guy like Troy and not be somewhat in awe of how he not only played but approached life as well as football.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Have to disagree with you. Maybe Heath but I definitely noticed his play dropping off, especially with YAC. Ward was getting killed, hated seeing those hits on him, his time was up and Troy was probably a year too late.

    All great and favorite players for sure though.
     
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  12. thorn058

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    That's fair and I would never say they were in their prime but they could still contribute and had the restructing not happened maybe they aren't cut. An aging Heath Miller is a lot easier to stomach at 5 million on the last year of his contract then at 11 million with two years left. I'm spiralling those numbers but I'm almost sure that was Heath''s cap hit was that much the year he was cut. I was shocked as heck that when they came out of all those restructures and deadmoney he'll a few years ago that they let Timmons play out the last year of his deal at what was it 9 million and let him walk.

    It's like watching the Packers cut Nelson today. You understand the loss of production but the guy has been solid for your franchise for a decade and as a fan you hate to see it.
     
  13. SteelerGlenn

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    James Harrison was a good example his first time around.
     
  14. FootballAnalyst98

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    The packers are finally being aggressive in free agency
     
  15. Jim90

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    They'll spend just over half for bell then waste the rest on scabs
     
  16. SteelerGlenn

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    Non Union Players?
     
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  17. BobbyBiz

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    Yes. There will be a sign up sheet posted here for us starting tomorrow. PWP will take DHB's place when they release him.
     
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  18. BuckeyeBucco

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    Let's hope the Steelers do a better job of it.
     
  19. Jim90

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    If we Could Only Turn Back Time and sign good players for cheap again. Ever since Tomlin opened his big mouth about signing cheap labour. The team has gone broke when it comes to signing descent players.
     
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  20. JackAttack 5958

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    Heath wasn't actually cut. He decided to retire. That's what I love about Heath. He could have stayed on one more year and made a few million more, but he knew it was time for him to retire and acknowledged the fact that his play had deteriorated somewhat and, in his mind anyway, it was time to walk away. I appreciate and respect that about Heath. Some players delude themselves and think they can still play even though they are a shell of what they once were.
     
  21. CK 13

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    Blast their is no guarantee that the cap will keep going up and the number this year was supposed to be more. That being said Ben is under contract for 2 more seasons at 23.2 per year. I believe he will be extended for 2 to 3 more years which will happen next season. Still going to be a boatload of money. Bell will be off the books. Ben is going to be around for a while. The concern is the money pushed into the future. But after Ben hangs em up their is going to be a low point for a few years.
     
  22. Jim90

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    Ben's body won't last that long, be lucky to get 2 more seasons out of him. But they'll probably keep him around until he cant move anymore, seems to be the new steelers way. Work them until the wheels fall off.

    If the new OC is going to take the leash off of Ben, as in going back to playing backyard style football, he's going to get hit a lot.
     
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  23. mac daddyo

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    thats only with 41 realistically under contract. we are without gay, mitchell, shazier, conner, eli, hubbard, toussaint, mccullers, moats, harrison, grimble, ridley at least right now. bell will eat up 14.5 mil. of that 28 mil.. that includes guys like matt wile, deshaun phillips, dangerfield, malik golden, darnell leslie, trey griffey, keion adams in our top 51 right now with 2 others needed to fill the roster plus the rookie class and the PS. then if more cuts come like golden, sensabaugh, DHB, fort, wilcox, that means more guys to sign. it sure kills depth and eats up money fast. :cool:
     
  24. Blast Furnace

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    With these massive restructures, I think they are counting on those two things. Cap has gone up 10 million a year for the last 5 years and Ben cant play forever. Id be surprised if he makes it 3 more years.

    They are at 28 million in restructures, 25 million was the previous high in 2012. I dont think the plan is to just do these deals and then cut half the team in a few years.
     
  25. LambertsDentist

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    I agree that we're mortgaging the future for the present. That's not the normal Steeler Way, but with Ben's window closing it makes sense.

    About the time these restructures start to hurt is when Ben retires. We go through salary cap hell for a year or 2, resulting in a couple losing season, resulting in a high enough draft pick to get our next great QB.
     

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