Art Rooney II ‘Not Closing The Door’ On Steelers Trading For QB

Are You people dense. You know people it's hard to succeed with bad Qb play....ask the guys who played in for tge Texans before CJ Stroud showed up. Ask the Wrs on this team before Mason played. Do I need to go on???
Their Wr, TE, and Rb are good...., and there OL is not bad....remember how much better our OL looked from just changing Qb. You guys see this across the league....over , and over....yet You don't get it. A Qb will either make Your weapons, and OL look better, or worse. How much evidence do You people need of that, and No team is getting rid of a good Qb just because of what draft pick they have. Wake the f**k up.

 

Nobody said that Fields is a top 5 QB.......Moore had also a great season in Chicago with Fields as QB

 

So....1. A Team that is getting rid of their 1st round draft pick isn't a red flag???
2. A Qb that has fumbled 38 times, and thrown 30 ints in 38 games is not a red flag to you???
If Qbs don't make their teams better, or worse...then we might as well save draft picks, and money , and just keep KFP.

 

That isn't always the case though. Look at Patrick Mahomes this year. His weapons are.... garbage, compared to previous years. He has Kelce still, but Pacheco is just meh, they have Rice flashing but the rest of their WR's and their secondary RB (Edwards-Helaire) are trash. His YPG, YPA, QB rating, INT %, TD's, and wins are all at career lows. They're in the SB in large part to their defense actually being excellent this season. If the QB makes the weapons, you would expect the Chiefs current "weapons" to look a heck of a lot better than they do. The fact is that Patrick looks worse this year because his weapons are significantly worse.

 

I think you need to wake up ad stop typing chit on your keyboard that you cannot support. You stated that the Bears had weapons but didn't produce on you claim.

 

Than why the f**k would You waste draft picks, and money on him???

 

again Fields is on the trade market because they have the number 1 draft pick this year because of their trade with the panthers last year...Not because Fields is terrible

 

No all it shows is that's how actually bad His weapons are. Imagine how bad they would be with someone else.

 

we need much better QB that Pickett

 

You don't trade your Qb just because You have a 1st pick. LoL who are you trying to kid.

 

But this is the case when this is one of the best prospect in the last 25 years

 

I believe this is more about pigments than actually how good, or bad someone is, and I'd hate to think that of people, but after watching the difference in our own, OL, and weapons change by just changing Qbs, and watching how all the so called bums in Texans change by just changing the Qb ....I can't figure our what else it would be.....that people are actually trying to sell a Qb as bad as Fields.
1. No Organization gets rid of a 1st round draft pick at Qb if He's good.
2. 38 fumbles, and 30 int...in 38 games should even make the dumbest fan pause, and see many red flags.

 

Bull$hit. I hear that every 4 years.

 

I don't think pigment have a damn thing to do with it. The Bears are the problem and they keep throwing chit on the wall to see if it sticks, and is why they end up in the top of the draft year in and out.

 

That's a good one BF! LOL

 

1. sure, but there are plenty of QB's that get sent off their first team only to be successful elsewhere. Brees and Goff are probably the most prolific of that bunch, but guys like Alex Smith, Ryan Tannehill, Kirk Cousins, Carson Palmer, and even Geno Smith have all been sent off their first team early in their careers only to be good elsewhere. It's something to consider for sure, but hardly a death sentence in the league.

2. Yes, the turnovers are something to consider as well. However, the stats you indicate are a bit skewed as he's put the ball on the ground 30 times... but lost 11. So while losing 41 turnovers in 38 starts is not particularly good, you also have to understand that Fields carries the ball too. Nearly 120 carries a season. You'd expect a QB that uses his legs as a weapon to turn the ball over more than a simple pocket passer simply because they are taking more hits with a chance to fumble. The question lies in, how much of Fields' turnovers are because he's bad and how many were him forcing things trying to come back in games where his team is clearly out matched. Even good players turn the ball over at a higher rate when their weapons are covered, their OL is a sieve, and you have no running game to fall back on. The offense had to be carried by Fields and it certainly puts an onus on him that would normally lead to more turnovers.

 

That's the point. Bad weapons can even make the best QB in the league look worse.

 

Pigment doesn't matter at all, not sure what you're implying? Half of the top 10 QB's in this league are black and they aren't all run first QB's. Mahomes, Dak, Stroud, and Tua are are primarily pocket passers while Jackson and Hurts are in the hybrid model. Both can be successful. People are attempting to sell a mediocre NFL QB like Fields because there are viable reasons to believe he could still be better in a different (better) situation. We also don't have a QB on our roster that anyone should feel good about as an NFL signal caller for the forseeable future. Couple that together with Fields being available and you have people wondering if he could be an option for us. Not hard to imagine or believe.

There aren't many QB's that don't have any red flags. The ones without red flags... are the best small handful of QB's in the league. Even players as good as Dak and Allen turn the ball over a ton. Lamar plays his worst in the biggest games, Purdy is a system QB, Herbert can't do enough to win games, Hurts is a system/runner, Tua is a system guy and can't stay healthy. You find which red flags you can live with and improve a guy you think can be a player for you.

There aren't many Stroud's lying around. Even if you draft first overall the shot of someone like CJ being available and working out is still extremely low. People act like its so easy. Like "just tank for the first overall pick" as if there is 0 percent chance that doesn't work out. The majority of top 10 picks at QB bust out of the league. Even the ones that hit aren't always the Patty Mahomes/Joe Burrow/CJ Stroud of the group. Sometimes you get a Tua Tagovailoa and are still very happy with the outcome. It's not that simple.

The facts are that we need to improve our QB situation because Kenny sucks and Trubisky is the only other QB under contract on our roster (that is likely to change soon). Fields is a potential option people are discussing because its low risk and at the very least is an improvement over what we have. Its not crazy to discuss. Its also a moot point, because the organization seems set on throwing Kenny out there until they literally can't anymore. I doubt we pull the trigger on something like this, but I wouldn't hate it if we did.

 

How would you know if Rudolph was better? He looked better in the last 3 games than some of those guys... Rudolph looked a lot better than Kenny Pickett but you won't even admit that so your OPINION here is questionable...

 

I agree but haven't given up on KP yet and want to see what he does with the new OC. That will tell the organization where they are and what they have in him.

 

Lol....
You're smack on. He looked sincere in his interview.. but man, I with you, you really gotta wonder.