Are you kidding me right now?

Season is over. Stop pointing fingers.
Fire BA? Really? He is a 3x AFC Champion coach and a 2x Superbowl Champion coach. The team went 12-4 this year with him as a OC.

How about we just call it what it is, lack of excution on the players part. I'm sure BA doesn't tell Ben to run around like a chicken with his head cut off. Or maybe it is a designed play? Let's also blame BA for the dropped balls. Oh yeah, and the blocking (both pass and run) up front. And i'm sure all the injuries are also BA's fault too.

On second thought, let's just fire everyone and start from the ground up. We'll fill all the positions by popular vote. Then we'll win the Superbowl every year. Good grief!!!

 

you have to wonder why no body...I mean no body has mentioned his name for a head coaching job. With his resume that you stated only a college team has been heard to want his talents....things that make you go...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

Are you kidding me???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Thats how bad your comments are about BA.

Please, spare us all the talk about a 12-4 season and the AFC Championships, and the 2 Super Bowls!!!!!!

The Steelers won because of two things> First they won inspite of BA, and second, they won because of defense. BA had nothing to do with it. Seeing that you are so adamant about BA being the one, I am adamant that he is not the one and should not be bought back. Infect I'm going to start a thread on not re-signing him. I bet I get more people to support me then you do.

 

I'm not looking for support. Just stating facts. Never said he was "the one". But your opinion matters the most so you should call the Rooneys and they should do whatever you say because you are so adamant that you can find someone better. Good luck with that!!!

 

It doesn't matter if he wants to or not. Just mentioning his name is what I'm thinking. I know it's his choice. But not one analysis or commentator or beat writer has ever mentioned his name in a conversation about SOMEONE wanting him as a head coach.

Cowher, Gruden, the old ravens coach have there name mentioned all the time but I don't believe they want to get back into coaching again.

If your talents are good, someone is going to talk about you whether you want to be a head coach or not.

 

I think the Steelers should fire BA for INSUBORDINATION. Art Rooney II himself told Tomlin and BA to commit to the running game and it went in one ear and out the other. When the Steelers establish the running game, then their passing game will be much more effective. BA's offensive gameplan is wing it and sling it!

 

Rather than retyping everything I'll just say
I mean seriously, do some of you guys even watch the games? And at the end of the day it's the OC's job to get the players to execute... if they consistently aren't executing it generally points towards a coaching problem.

 

Yep, we went 12-4...you happy with that? Me, I'm not happy. Why? We lost the division. We weren't a top seed. We didn't win home field advantage. Accepting this is accepting a step back next year. I don't care what Arians has done. What I care about is what he is going to do to fix our inconsistency this year? Yep top 12 team in offense this year, except for the stat that really counts...points for is what really counts. We were 21st or 22nd in that category.

Look, I am not blaming the season on BA. I am also not blaming the season on DL who had his own debacles this year. The reality is, this team IMO did not perform at their abilities. Why that is, I am not sure, but on offense I have a pretty good idea.

We never use the running backs to their abilities...ever. We have basically 1 run play. Run behind the right guard with the left guard pulling and leading into the hole. After that, we don't do anything else consistently. We don't ever run the screen pass to the RB, it is always the WR bubble screen which every team knows is coming because we run it so much. We never run things which allow Wallace to set up the CB for the deep ball. We don't do play action. We don't run out of the shotgun. I have seen it reported that 48% of our pass completions are off of adlibs by the WR.

Just one example. NO had 120 receptions between 2 RBs this year. We had just over 40 for all of our RBs combined. That is Mendy, Redman, Moore, Dwyer, and Clay. Combined we had just over 40.

 

IMHO, BA has very little to do with our winning record. Year after year he proves he has no creativity or ingenuity. He has no concept of halftime adjustments. We are way too predictable on offense. Because of their familiarity with our schemes, Terrell Suggs is an absolute beast against us. I'm waiting for him to eventually pull a pick 6 on one of those assinine bubble screens. Big Ben is the reason our offense looks halfway competent. His athleticism and spontaneity while running for his life have saved us on many occasions. But as he gets a step slower, he is going to need some well designed plays to remain effective. These schoolyard draw it in the dirt type of plays are going to be our downfall. I have no idea what the numbers show, but we always seem to struggle on short yardage situations, which I think is BA's Achilles Heel. I always feel more confident converting 3 and 8 versus 3 and 2. I know the NFL is now a passing league and we are well equipped to successfully move the ball due to talented players, but I sure would like to have a liitle more confidence in our run game. I am tired of BA. Time for some fresh ideas. The Bengals are on the rise. It's time for some new direction.

 

With all our offensive weapons, the team had the 21st ranked offence in terms of scoring. In 5 years with BA, we usually are in the bottom half of the league in terms of scoring. We haven't had a good running game in 5 years. We score mostly FG's instead of TD's. We rarely use our RB's in the passing game at all and despite our OL being bad, we don't slow down opposing pass rushes via screen's to the RB's. In fact, I don't think we ran a single screen to the RB all season long. Other than one game against the Pats and the 1st quarter against Denver, we rarely use our TE's in the passing game. Every successful offensive passing team in the league uses their TE's on a regular basis. Hell, even the running teams use their TE's. Why the hell do we even have a TE on the team if we won't use them?

When Ben had a bad ankle, why was he under center performing 5 and 7 drop passes? Why not put him in shotgun more often? Why were we often in an empty backfield set when Ben had a bad ankle? Why not leave a RB back there to slow the pass rush down and/or give Ben another quick passing option?

Why was Ben playing at all against Cleveland and San Fran? Why was Ben still in the game against San Fran when it was clearly out of reach and he was terrible all game?

Why do we game plan for when plays break down? Seriously, who the hell game plans with the thought in mind that the play is going to fail? Why not game plan around our WR's running their routes correctly and our QB getting the ball to them quickly? That's what has made every NFL QB successful in the history of the league.

Seriously, there's nothing that supports BA being a good OC, nothing!!! Hell, Jay Gruden was getting constant calls from numerous teams about a head coaching job. So apparently Cinci's OC is much more respected than BA. They have a rookie QB, a rookie WR and a mediocre RB, yet more than one team wants their OC. Not one team wants juice Brucie.

 

Look everyone, I understand the frustration of losing when we should not have lost. Really I do. But how much better off are we than most teams? You all keep saying, FIRE BA!!! Ok fine, fire him. Where is that going to put us in the future? The smart ass anwser is going to be "better off". But can you be sure? We can say the same things about Tomlin and LeBeau also. After all it was LeBeau's D that gave up the winning TD. So let's just get rid of everyone.


I said it before and i'll say it again, if you can do better, do it.

 

SteelerBark, you raise some great yet scary points about the bungles... the teams in our division know they have to beat us to be a contender, so they are building their teams to do that. The rats did it this past off-season and the bungles are building to do it next year.

We have got to infuse new ideas and schemes if we want to continue to be successful. Not fixing small problems before they turn into major ones is a scary idea... I really hope we aren't heading towards the bottom of the AFC due to our coaching staffs complacency.

 

Finally a man who gets it very good post

 

Nobody on here is claiming to be an NFL coach, so stop throwing that out there. What we're saying is current coaches can do it better than BA.

Also, comparing us to other teams is dumb. We have better ownership, management and player talent than most teams, so comparing us to them doesn't make sense. You can't compare apples to oranges and expect a fair response.

We should be compared to what our true abilities are, and with Mendy, Redman, Ben, Brown, Sanders, Wallace, Heath and Sanders, we should be scoring far more than we have. Not only that, if you look at our weaknesses, we don't gameplan around them. We have a bad OL with a bunch of big, strong, yet slow lineman, yet we use this zone blocking crap rather than power blocking via 1 on 1 battles. Also, we often go empty backfield, leaving Ben exposed. We don't use motion other than for the sake of doing it. We don't run out of passing formations, we have a total of 2 running plays in our playbook, we only score TD's 50% of the time in the red zone, BA game plans with the thought that our play will break down, rather than game planning with the idea that his plays will be successful, etc.

Seriously, I can go on all day about why we should get rid of BA, yet I haven't heard one single argument defending him other than "we won a SB with him," or "we went 12-4." Those arguments have been debunked already.

 

We might not be any better without Arians, but we will never know if we don't try. What we have is a track record of 5 years under Arians. And I'm not impress. But I have to believe it's someone out there that can develop this offense better than what Arians has done.

And as far as Lebeau, I think he should be gone as well. I think today's NFL has past him up. He doesn't use his zone blitz scheme anymore. He just sits back and plays it safe. Lebeau has forgotten more football then I will ever know but there is no reason for the mediocre quarterbacks that we have faced this year to have such a success against us. We were two William Gay interceptions away from losing to bottom feeders in the league.

Now I know Lebeau is not on the field and players play. I don't even blame Lebeau when someone makes a play against one of our guys. What i look at is the scheme and the adjustments.

Why is Gay man on man with anyone in the last minute of a game? ie. baltimore game
Why is Ike taylor, man on man with a Thomas when it was clear he could not cover him alone? ie. denver game
Why are we playing zero coverage in the NFL? meaning no safety in the middle? ie. denver game

That is scheme and adjustments.

 

I bet Coach Tomlin loves this topic. I always thought a head coach could step in and overrule playcalling made by the OC that's apparently gone so bad the last 2 years.

 

Of course it matters. If it's known among other GM's that BA has no interest in a HC position they aren't going to waste their time. You can't lump him into the same category as Cowher and Gruden, those guys are SB winning coaches, proven winners, of course their names will come up. I never hear BA talked about either good or bad and I watch alot of sports shows, listen to a lot of radio. If he was as God awful as some think, then why isn't he even talked about in a negative fashion? At the same time, It also shows that he isn't some offensive guru, which puts him right where I think he is, the middle of the pack. Not great but not as bad as he is made out to be around here and not the soul reason for our failures.[/quote:wi75tpxi]

I guess we can agree to disagree. With his resume...AFC Championships...2 super bowls...statistical achievements...I believe he is in those categories with those coaches...I also listen to a lot of sports show and Sirius NFL radio, and most people are more willing to talk about someone, given his achievements, in a positive then a negative. His resume is better than most OCs out there and not one word about him. He's not even mention as one of the elite.

 

The problem with BA and now I'm gonna start thinking Lebeau is, they don't adapt and adjust to teams strengths and weaknesses. Once a season just doesn't cut it. And Tomlin, he just needs to grow a pair and actually do his job, COACH!!!!!

 

A 12-4 season with squeakers vs Indy, Jax, Cleveland (twice), and KC. The Steelers didn't have an impressive offensive showing all season.

 

I guess we can agree to disagree. With his resume...AFC Championships...2 super bowls...statistical achievements...I believe he is in those categories with those coaches...I also listen to a lot of sports show and Sirius NFL radio, and most people are more willing to talk about someone, given his achievements, in a positive then a negative. His resume is better than most OCs out there and not one word about him. He's not even mention as one of the elite.[/quote:ufguee50]

This makes no sense, on the one hand you are saying BA is not a good OC and on the other you say his resume is much better then most OC's. And most people are willing to talk in a positive then a negative??? Not on this planet, media loves to cut up other people, at least whenever I watch.[/quote:ufguee50]

For one, I don't believe BA is any good. But based on someone stating that his resume is good by having those statisical achievements, AFC Championships and Super bowls, Why isn't he mentioned as one of the elite or even good OC? You rarely here anyone cut the steelers organizational personnel. After the debacle in Denver, all the commentators where reluctant to criticize Dick Lebeau, after it was obvious he screwed up. Now, they did say some things about him but it was very political correct speaking. Let that had been the Giants or the Jets doing the same thing and they would of cut them down completely.