Anybody miss Big Ben?

When Steelers made the playoffs with Cowher, they usually were the #1 or #2 seed (with bye). Exceptions were '93 '02 and '05.

 

I know all that but you can always back loaded that even after their contract is over just to keep the window open(with voided years)...Of course it's going to hurt for the Chiefs later, like in the 2030s for the Chiefs and in 2028 or something like that for the ravens but who care right now if you can compete for the super bowl during that time...I don't think the rams regret having been all in like crazy even if they paid the price in 2022 with a 5-12 record...

The key to keeping the window open is always going to be to be good in the draft and the problem for the Steelers in the 2010s was not Ben's contract but the fact that the Steelers had a major draft bust in 2013, 2016 and the Shazier's career was very short...If you draft well and your QB plays well, the window will stay open even if your QB has a big contract.The chiefs have right now the best defense in the Mahomes era(and this is not close) because of their draft!

 

Of course we were... just like we were spoiled when Bradshaw retired, until Ben came along.
Any team and fan base that ever had a franchise qb goes through this, unless you're San Francisco or Green Bay and have a succession plan in place

 

Only every steelers game I watch. Also miss Hines outworking everyone on the field, Troy flying around, and Shazier keeping the middle in check. Actually I miss quite a few of the self-less GREAT players Pittsburgh has had in the last 20 years

 

I would love to see what Mason could do in "Big Ben's" vertical passing offense, not in the under 2 seconds passing offense "Old Ben" ran to finish his career.

 

Teams have different ways to manage the CAP, and the void years of course can help, IDK the exact details but even those are regulated so as to keep current players in the money scheme. I do not know the exact breakdown as the 24 cap has yet to be announced, but take the Bills as an example. On the projected CAP, their top 6 players under contract take up 50 % or more, the window certainly and be lengthened, but it still is going to come due.

 

Problem for the Bills in the last few years,their draft was not very good in the last few years and when this is the case,it comeback to haunt at some point, regardless of your QB's contract....The Chiefs have done a great job of rebuilding their defense and if they are able to find one or two good WRs in their next draft, they will still be in the hunt for the super bowl almost every year if Mahomes stays healthy

 

2010 Big Ben sure. Late career Ben not so much

 

I wont dispute that, hell even the Rams with the down year came back this year faster than most..it not all expected. It takes all phases, the draft and player development is key.

 

You are correct, but what you are talking about is mirroring the Rams, Broncos and other that basically kick the can down the road with core players, sign one year deals to free agents and try to patch a team together for a run. That’s all well and good but it’s just not how this organization works. Fly bye night teams can win, then the team eats dead money and lose for several years and actually pick up draft picks because of their futility. It seems to be the new thing where fans don’t really root for players or have hero’s, rather they just want a quick fix and take a shot at a Super Bowl. It’s really pathetic to watch, OBJ was on the rams sb team now he’s on the Ravens. Players really don’t care about the city or fans, they are carpetbaggers that are just trying to get a quick buck. Look at Tampa, they sold out a few years ago and are just climbing back into it. No one thinks of them as a dynasty, in fact people hardly remember they won, same with the Rams and Broncos. The Steelers will likely never go that route, they are very traditional in how they handle players and the fans.

 

To be clear, if I were an NFL team, I would never go all-in like crazy like the Rams did(traded almost every draft pick they had!) even if it worked for them... Because it's too risky, a lot of pressure since if you don't win it's ugly

But I have no problem manipulating the salary cap, it can be done quite easily but of course the draft will always be the key, since you can't keep everyone but if your QB is really special and you draft well, the window is going to be very big for a long time even if your QB has a big contract

 

And try to imagine if we won a SB, then went into the tank for 3-4 years! You think for one second this team’s fan base would not lose their ****? You think they would be like “We won it a couple years ago!” NO! Fire everyone and get rid of the gutless worms! “If we had Noll back this wouldn’t have happened!” “Thats what happens when you follow the Rooney Rule!” “He managed to screw up a great team!” “I don’t care how many times they go.500, they suck and we get to watch our players win on other teams!” Most of them are just stupid and don’t understand the way the league works but it’s still there and the ownership probably does not want to hear that and do not want to tank for years and let people pay their hard earned money to watch a losing team for years.

 

#7 stunted Steelers rebuild, milked as much money as he could
out of Steelers. Shame on them.

 

Like, yesterday…

 

As I said in another thread he is my new Tom Brady. Knowing he is in our Conference along with some other top tier QB's makes things look bleak for awhile. We shall see.

 

Correct - and then CHOKED as BIG FAVORITES!!!

 

said this earlier today - he is GOAT #2 if he rides to the SB and wins again......

but I think the RATS D will have something for him......

we won't sniff an AFCCG for years, many many years.........

not w Lamar, Mahomes, Burrow, Tua, and several others WORLDS ahead of where Tomlin and Co. are.

 

How can you miss him?
I don't believe he has gotten smaller!!

 

There’s some truth to that, but the front office could have said no. Obviously some yinzers heads would have exploded, but forcing him into retirement like Hines and Troy would have been preferable

 

Restructured his contract in 2021 to create more cap room by taking a $5M cut, so . . .

 

I miss Farrior more than Shazier. That guy was one hell of an ILB.

 

Never take as granted when you have the stability at the QB position for very long

 

Not really!

 

If Ben had driven the Steelers that last drive in Super Bowl XLV to a win, you could say he had the perfect career. That game still eats me up when I think about it. Because I thought they were gonna drive down the field and win it all.