Anybody miss Big Ben?

True that Ben had a very good game vs Jaguars,the defense were just awful but if you talk about Lamar,one of those game was in week 1 and the other was in a blowout win and he was 21-26 for 180 passing yards and 60 rushing yards in 3 quarter...This is not a bad game!

For the MVP,this is a weak year but still 2 week left in the season.It could be Josh Allen if the bills are in the second seed or Brock Purdy if he bounce back or Tua if he play well in the next 2 games and that the dolphins win both game...or the RB of SF

Turnovers to TD ratio is important but this is not everything....I mean Russell Wilson has been benched even if he had a 26-8 TD-INT ratio...A huge reason was because the broncos don't want that Wilson has a injury in the final 2 week,so they can release him after this year and the other,the Broncos offense have been mediocre all year long

 

He'd get murdered.

 

We won SB XLV against Seattle, in 2011, in spite of Ben. He played great to get us there, but he sucked for that big game.

 

XLV was the super bowl vs packers....super bowl vs seattle was in the 2005 season

 

My bad. XL, 2005

 

Yeah. They are afraid of Russell getting hurt. I wonder who picks Him up this year, and will He be cheap because of Denver paying some of that salary????

 

When was the last time Ben led the offense to a fast start in the playoffs ?

 

Oh now it has to be like right off the 1st snap. I will remember that when watching the playoffs this year. LoL. Come on You My Friend know better than that. I don't know in what world You blame the Qb for losing a Game that had 5 tds, and 1 int. Name Me one other Qb people would blame for that. We would $hit gold bricks if we had a Qb that could score 5td in the regular season....let alone in a playoff game.

 

I'm not impressed by those stats after they fell behind 21-0, I noticed you didn't answer my question .

 

Colts.... January 2006, Broncos....same year

 

Yeah whatever. I will mark this. Next time a Qb throws for 5td, and 1int, and You actually blame the Qb.

 

That's my point a franchise and future HoF QB should be better in the playoffs.

 

We had the argument before I'm not doing this back and forth on the same topic, I guess you don't realize by falling behind you will likely run out of time Jaguars playoff game.

 

Well go compare all the HOF Qbs outside of Brady, and Ben is almost exactly the same stat wise as all of them, and better than some.

 

I guess You didn't realize that it's the D that didn't stop anything.

 

It was not a problem back in 2005 under Cowher and Whiz...Starting fast was very important for Cowher even in the regular season.They were one of the best first half team in the NFL that year

Tomlin prefer to be a great second half and fourth quarter team who is a major reason why our games are so often close under him(the steelers have the most one score game in the NFL since 2007).Tomlin has even said 2 month ago after the Jaguars game that the games are rarely decided in the first quarter....

 

Now a days, that’s half a season

 

Tomlin only faced the Patriots one time in the playoffs. Tomlin sucked to much to even reach the Patriots

 

I mean,the chiefs are once again in the AFC title game and Lamar make 52 millions per year....So much you can't win with a QB with a huge contract.....Good team are able to manipulate with the big contract of their QB.....Of course it's a problem if the QB is not elite but it's not a problem for those team

 

Sure I miss Ben, I miss the steel curtain more

 

I don't.

 

that was a Fruedian slip, but his point is factual.

 

10-7 and in the playoffs. How exactly is that "falling apart"?

 

You have to look at the contracts. Many of them are back loaded like MaHomes was. They push the money back and keep the cap hit lower. Dak Prescott is an example, he’s due $60 million next year. They will pay him more and push the money back again. That’s fine and it works until the bill comes due like it did for us at the end of Ben’s deal. I know you think it’s a gottcha moment here but you’re sadly misinformed. Keep in mind that the Bills have signed Allen to a big deal as well so the teams are basically in the same situation. Anyone who watched the Chiefs can see they have retracted some and will get worse. The Bills beats them with a couple catches and a FG. No doubt MaHomes is great, but if he wants to make a Brady type run he needs to keep re doing his deal. The Cowboys will have to do something with Dak’s deal because they will not be able to field a team. The Browns have now reached the bulk of Watson’s deal, they are looks at $60 million for three years. They are screwed unless they want to sign him long term! Who wants that? Except us.

 

How many times have we backed into the playoffs under Tomlin, compared to backing in under Cowher?