Agree or disagree

I kind of have to agree. A win here would have to quiet all the Tomlin haters.

 

Disagree.


Tomlin will somehow be blamed for something; regardless whether it is within his control or not.

 

Of course. He may have achieved that distinction already. The 1994, 1995, 1997, 2001 and 2004 seasons ended badly. Some of the blame has to be attributed to Cowher. In particular, losing the AFC Championship games at home to inferior opponents affects Cowher's legacy.

Cowher wasn't a strategist or a tactician; he was a motivator like Tomlin is. He was right for the team and the city then, and it was time for him to quit when he did.

 

I can fondly remember the days when fans wanted Cowher fired. See the 98,99,2000 seasons. Tomlin has even come close to having that bad of seasons.

Steelers fans will always want to fire the coach. Unless you win the Super Bowl, then they want to put you on Mount Rushmore.

If Tomlin wins the next two games, I'm putting him ahead of Cowher.

 

I agree, as much as I hate to say it because I really liked Cowher, but if Tomlin takes this team to the Super Bowl and pulls off a win, then he passes Cowher. His style of coaching may not appeal to all of us but a win will have proved it works. I hope he can rally the team and pull off the upset.

 

Agreed, and right now he's a distant 3rd for me.

 

I don't like comparing players and coaches from different eras due to all the variables, but you can't argue with Tomlin's record. I would agree. And I loved Cowher.

 

If he wins said super bowl, then agree. He will have more Super Bowls than Cowher and still no losing seasons.

 

Tough call for me. I'm far from a Tomlin hater, but at this point I still wouldn't put him above Noll or Cowher. Maybe I'll answer again after we see what happens.

 

I agree with you 100%

 

its one game. nothing more.

 

Agree

 

I think it would be a huge win and great but you have to win superbowls, not just beat the pats. This is a world class franchise that should only be worried about rings, not beating other teams. Watching Brady and the cheats go down in flames is icing, but the cake is #7. Leave that "beating team x is everything" mentality to losers like the Browns whose superbowls are beating us once every few years. So after that winded answer I say no, beating the pats and not winning the superbowl is a disappointment.

 

If he wins the AFCCG AND the Super Bowl, I agree.

 

If the Steelers win the SB, those haters (Cowherd, Whitlock) over at FOX are going to hear about it from me.

 

Cowher never had Ben in his prime, but I like Mike Tomlin too.

Its hard to compare really. In the end its the amount of rings. If Tomlin wins his second he takes his spot as 2nd.

 

Agree in terms of Noll being a superior football mind. I like Tomlin but I see him more as a get the players motivated to play coach and not a guy who can coach the team to a win. I also agree with the other poster who said Tomlin in so many words had the luxury of inheriting a championship caliber team with a top ranked defense and franchise quarterback installed already. Ben had been key to Tomlin's success over the years, when he hangs them up we will get a better idea of where Tomlin falls as a coach.

 

Disagree. One year and one game does not the second best coach make. It would be great for his case when it's all said and done though. I'm also hardcore rooting for that to happen. I really don't care "who's better" anyway. I just care that the Steelers win EVERY game regardless of WHO the coach is.

 

This.

Once Cowher got a HOF/Franchise QB, he won a SB pretty quickly. Tomlin's had Ben in his prime. Once Ben retires and if Tomlin has an average QB, I'll be interested to see what he does.

 

Which record? His record against bad teams or his record against good teams? There's a difference when it comes to Tomlin ya know? LOL! Tomlin is the only coach I know of that actually has two records. I mean he doesn't doesn't he? He doesn't just have an overall record that people look at. He has another sub record that people look at to say that his overall record is less impressive. Weird really.

 

I've always been intrigued by the same thing about Tomlin. Also Mike McCarthy. HOWEVER, the thing with McCarthy that I was telling someone the other day is this. We were talking about Belichick being a great football mind and I was agreeing but I said IF I wanted to play devil's advocate against him I'd say "Well yeah technically he DID draft Tom Brady BUT if he's the best football mind and judge of talent ever then why did it take an injury for Brady to get the job?" But with McCarthy he had one of the greatest and absolutely most dependable qb of all time and he let him go for an unproven guy. Now we know what Rodgers has turned in to but at the time we have no idea. I'll say this about McCarthy. He has guts big time and I'd say it has for sure paid off but there were many calling for his head when he let Favre go and if it hadn't worked out there would be even more. I still wanna see McCarthy post Rodgers though. Or at least post true franchise qb.

 

I've been a Tomlin doubter for the past couple of years but I'm slowly coming around. He has surprised me with how far he has taken the team

Also I think a lot of my doubts were believing after 9 years that the team needed a new voice and new way of doing things. The other part is I think having a stratiegest or tactician is what they needed more than a players coach at this time.

Now I think I could be wrong and he's really impressed me.

 

I agree Chuck Noll forgot more about football then MT & Bill Cowher will ever know.