AB

Because he's a ****in baby...That's why

 

If you're going to play that card,play it both ways...A 36 year old QB...Marsha is 40..
1 legit WR...Some teams have zero, and haven't had one in years...
Unproven RB? Really., I think he proved!
Aging OL...Still one of the best...AV, Feiler, DeCastro are not old...
Aging DL...Still very good
DB...I will give you, must improve there and I think/ hope we will...With the draft and some salary cap room...
I don't buy that this team is in rebuild mode yet

 

Did you really just post insinuating that Bell is a reliable player...He has missed EVERY big game we needed him in...Always hurt...And that's not even counting the suspensions and a holdout!

 

And in Bell's most recent season he played 16 games. Conner did not. And no I look at history FOR EVERYONE IN EVERY ARGUMENT. I dont in one only use one season and then another try to use history. Because if that's the case ben isnt even in mahomes class. Hes never came close to his numbers and win a mvp nor ever been first team all pro.

 

Correct he did. But FOR THE MOST PART all I hear people talk about when comparing bell and conner is what bell did in his last season. Not Bell's whole career. So I wasnt factoring that in since I see most people here not and only factoring in "what has he done lately".. I was using the narrative I saw people on this board using when trying to compare conner and bell

 

Fact: Bell has played a 16 game season.

Fact:conner never has.

And no I don't. But man I cant wait for mahomes hall of fame induction according to you.

 

I don't like comparing, but you picked the one team who's success no one has an answer for (NE).
As far as the Steelers:
A team that passes 40+ times a game has to have legit receivers.
Conner looked great, but 1 partial season doesn't prove anything really. Especially when it comes to RB's. I want him to be great and I think he will be, but he needs another season under his belt before we really know what we have.
AV will be 31 this season, Decastro is 29, Pouncey will be 30 (and mentions retirement every chance he gets).
Dline is probably okay age-wise, but Cam is 30 this season, and he's kinda the backbone.
I've said JuJu is probably a legit #1, but we don't know that until we see it, and even with (essentially)two #1 receivers this team missed the playoffs. I don't see things improving with AB gone. To me, he's the difference between possible contender, or time to rebuild.

 

If I'm wrong at my job, people could be hurt or possibly killed, so I don't mind be wrong (in your opinion) on a football message board.

 

Technically we aren't in a rebuild but this team has 1 or 2 at the most,years to put it all together. I say more so 1 because I think Tomlins best chance to turn things around is this year. Without or hopefully with AB this has a slim chance of being a " us against the world" rallying cry for both players and coaches. I don't think Tomlin goes into 2020 as a lame duck coach on his last contract year. So he other gets a extension based on his success in this upcoming season or the change should be made.

IMO we are a couple pieces away talent wise especially with AB. Unfortunately I don't have the faith in this coaching staff to suddenly become better at preparation,scheme,accountability,discipline and all the other intangibles required to be a legitimate SB contender. Honestly a part of me is looking forward to saying goodbye to some of these guys and welcoming what hopes to be a more " fan friendly" team.

 

Other than NE? Yes.. They are an anamoly though they have had Arguably the best qb to ever play for their entire run so there's that.

 

His teammates have publicly said they want him back. That he alienated some fans is irrelevant and it will pass the moment he starts making plays for the team again. The owner has kept the door open to fixing things and we really haven't heard a direct answer from Tomlin.

If they can't get fair value for him in a trade, they need to keep him. If Tomlin can't make that work, he needs to go. It's that simple.

 

Daaaaaaaamn! Look at the replies and views of this thread. This thread is BOOMIN!

 

Bell does have longevity and a more proven track record , no doubt...But he should...Basically a 1st round pick, who's been here longer

 

Bell is washed up. No more probowls, no more 1000 yard seasons, a liability to whomever he signs with. You heard it here first.

 

This team (under Tomlin) seems to be immune to rallying cries and wake up calls. Just more of the same mistakes, over and over.

 

Facts. Somebody here with some objectivity.

 

So basically you are justifying posting because you are mimicking someone else who posted . Yeah, you are going to do well in life with that approach.

This is why the little kids table exists at thanksgiving.

 

Just facts. Look at all the sb teams.

 

Bringing AB back would be a mistake. He quit on his team before a must win game. And he has not shown the slightest remorse for that. He doesn't think he's done anything wrong. If he comes back, in these circumstances, he'll have successfully played Tomln and Art II as fools. And the circus ratchets up another notch.

So fair return? If the whole league knows the Steelers have to deal him, and knows that he's an aging WR with disruptive habits. The Steelers are not dealing from a position of strength. Suppose all you get offered is a 2nd round pick? Deal him or not? I think if that's the best offer you have to take the hit and deal him. He can't stay, without some admission of fault that almost certainly isn't coming.

 

deal AB




( with Eli Rogers healthy AB is on the trading block)

 

Ok count NE. They have the best coach ever and to some the greatest player ever. That's something really no one could replicate. At times they have had talent. Gronk is the most dominant tight end in NFL history. They have had in their past top level elite players. They just dont keep them around that long lol. Let's go down that sb line.


Philly had more talent

Atlanta did have more talent.

Denver had the better talent on offense and defense. Cam newton that yr was just on another level. You'd take ginn and philly brown over demaryius thomas and Sanders?

I do NOT Think Seattle was more talented it was a push. NE had the 3 best players in that game. Brady, gronk, and revis. The talent was about even Seattle didnt have a strong offense just wilson and lynch. Pats had a very good defense that year and offense.

49ers and ravens. Even matchup. Ravens had several hall of famers on that defense still playing at a high level. Ray Lewis with arm was averaging like 12 tackles a game. Phenonmenal.

2011 giants and Pats were even.

2010 I thought GB was the better team.

2009 saints and colts were pretty even tbh but I'd give the nod to saints they had the better defense.

2008 Steelers were better overall but the cards were stacked on offense.

2007 the giants were vastly at a disadvantage talent wise. Though highly underrated when you look at that roster they had some very good players.

2006 colts were by far better. Wasnt even close.

2005 Steelers were far better than the Seahawks.

Eagles and Pats would favor eagles if T.O was fully healthy but since he wasnt even.

I can keep going but historically speaking the team with the better talent has pretty much won. If the teams are pretty evenly matched then the better coached team normally wins in that particular game. It's why the nfc completely just dominated the AFC in sbs for all those years in the 80s and 90s. Nfc was just the far better conference in terms of talent. In the nfc you had in the 80s the 3 best players in the nfl all in the NFC. Montana, rice, and Lawrence taylor.