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Owens absolutely made teams he played on better, especially the Eagles. Eventually, his act forced teams to move on.

This isn't the same thing. Brown has long-standing relationships on that team. He has players speaking up for him, including Roethlisberger and now Pouncey.

As for the bit about abandoning his team, I don't think Brown believed Tomlin would actually bench him for the game if he showed up on Sunday. I don't think he chose to abandon his team on a game day, though Tomlin definitely made the right call. I'm sure Brown thought he would be able to contribute even with the missed practice and meeting time.

Yes, Brown has done some very real damage to the locker room, but do you really think there is anybody on that team who didn't already know Brown was a selfish jackass? I don't think the Steelers can get fair value. Ir they can't, he needs to remain a Steeler and I don't think they can get proper value in a deal. Many Steelers fans are so bitter about what happened with Bell that they are assuming things will play out the same way with Brown, but the situations are different. Brown is older and has more time left on his contract. Also, he is under contract while Bell never signed his contract under the franchise tag.

Part of fixing things is having the team stop giving in to Brown's crap, and Tomlin took the first step in that direction by refusing to play Brown against the Bengals. It's not ideal, but it's the best of a set of bad options.

 

Such a ****ed up situation...Anybody who thinks we will be better with losing AB is delusional...

Dependent on what we get in return, we will be different, we maybe will be more balanced...But from a pure TALENT standpoint only...No way...

With that being said we still must cut our ties...It's like a bad marriage...irrevocable..

You just can't have the immates running the asylum, No matter the talent...This has gone on way to long and has to be addressed, sadly with our best, ( or very best ) players...Letting them do whatever the hell they want, for so long has gotten us nowhere, and has created a toxic lockeroom...

I blame this on Tomlin for letting it go this far...Like a child that keepsps pushing and pushing, to see how much rope they can get

Now Tomlin and Rooney wanna get tough and snap their fingers, and change the culture...Good luck with that

 

The inmate isn't running the asylum. He did something stupid and selfish and suffered a consequence. He was benched. Tomlin definitely let it go too far, but he did finally step up.

The Chicken Little disease on this site is out of hand.

 

Blast^^^^^See my above post, I want him gone! And I think he will be but...All the other bull**** aside...He is one helluva player...Hard to replace...

But we have to...Hoping all the stars align, Have a great draft ( hopefully in part to getting a decent return on AB ) Make a few cuts and extensions which will give us the ability to get a "couple" FA's...Again hope we hit on them...

I'm not predicting gloom and doom but...What we lose with AB...We HAVE to make up in other areas...And have a more, well rounded team!

Without all the Drama!

 

Was ochcocinco a diva?

 

I am not sticking up for AB but I have said this many times and about other situations social media send a lot of mixed messages out there. For the record I am pissed at AB and if we trade him fine but I would be fine with him staying too. The right things would have to get done and his selfless crap has to stop but at the end of the day it is all about wins and losses and we will win more with AB than we will without him IMO. Social media and blogs and all that stuff is a way for players to take shots and many do it. Just look at the Beasley's claims right now I don't pay a ton of attention to other players but I am going to start keeping one eye on it and see if it is just the Steelers....I think not.

As for what our players are thinking well this says a lot to me:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...cey-juju-would-welcome-brown-back-to-steelers

 

You really think even the Patriots are just loaded with guys who only care about the Super Bowl? NFL teams are always going to be a mix of team guys, more practical types and selfish guys who can still help because their desire for personal success drives them to excel on the field even though they will always put themselves first. Brown is in that last group.

You all really need to stop with the quitting on the team stuff. Brown thought he was going to get to play that Sunday. His actions that week were childish and stupid and he has only made it worse with his pouting since Tomlin finally put his foot down with the Week 17 benching. I don't think Brown ever considered that Tomlin would actually sit him. The players are talking publicly about mending fences. They realize what Brown means to that team.

I'm not expecting Brown to change. I'm expecting him to be the guy he was for 99.9 percent of his career as a Steeler, which is a selfish diva who is also one of the best players in the NFL. If the Steelers can get the kind of value they should for one of the best players in the game, fine. If not, they need to keep Brown. If they can't trust Tomlin to handle the situation, they need to find another head coach.

I have to agree with NYSTEELERSFAN. Look at what other Steelers are saying.

Some of you are blinded by your bitterness over a lost season.

 

His antics are rediculous to the point where i dont mind if he goes or stays. But i agree he shouldnt go unless their is a good return.

 

This is where I need the agree AND disagree button, lol. We don't get half the picture we have no clue who AB has or hasn't talked to, right? I mean we are getting most of our info from social media and imo I am not sure how much of that is real. One thing I will say is this, who says AB for Peterson makes us better? You are saying that the baggage is upsetting the locker as to why you feel that way. Well I think the link I just posted show us fans are more upset then his teammates. So while we get better on the D we get worse on O and that don't make us a better team. Now listen I am not saying AB is innocent and is very very wrong on what he did, but let's listen to the players and see where they go on the whole AB coming back.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sport...i-softens-stance-antonio-brown-154751302.html

 

As I said before...Sorry I don't know how to open these up before sending...Art is soft imo...AB totally ****ed everyone and won't even get in touch with Rooney, including basically mocking him every other day on social media...And is willing to take him back?

I still call bull****...This is damage control and Rooney is playing a game of cat and mouse...I ain't buying it...He wants to trade his Ass and make him as attractive as possible to drive the price up

 

He was a model citizen when he went to the Patriots.

 

Moss acted out over a contract and even then it wasnt to this extent. The moment he confronted them about w contract he was shipped out of town. They have a no tolerance policy. Not a before it gets to far policy. Plus like I said it wa sover money. Not because he wasnt getting the ball. I don't see a guy trying to get money as a diva. To me the diva is the guy who cares more about his numbers than winning.

 

I disagree with this post. Art cares about AB. Cares about his well-being. He left the decision up to AB on coming back or not. AB still has his head up his a$$ and doesn't know himself what he wants to do. If he wants a trade then communicate that. If not, start mending fences.

 

I will sign that petition...lmao.

I am not sure who they would replace AB with but there isn't much in FA that offers anything close to AB. Golden Tate, Funchess, Brown, Crowder, Moncrief etc are just avg guys. AB is an incredible talent as you know so IMO we would be taking a step back there. As for adding Peterson teaming with Haden hell yeah that would improve our D but would it improve the point scored on us as oppose to the point we won't score without AB? I don't know that answer and if I did I would share the winning lotto numbers with you, lol. What I do know is going into this season I didn't think anyone would throw on the Rams with Peters and Talib back there and guess what the Rams ended up 19th in yds per game and total yards vs the pass. So you see having these guys don't always make you that much better, but I agree would be a good start to replace AB.

I guess we will have to wait and see what other guys on the team say or if they will. I do agree AB/Ben and Tomlin all need a trip to the principles office and the **** needs to hit the fan. I am not saying AB should come back but I am not against it and Ben is no choir boy in this all either. As for MT I am all in on sending him packing.

 

AB is softening.

 

They have pills for that.

 

That last part is exactly what I've been saying all along. I can understand making a deal if they can get appropriate value, but I just don't see that happening.

Brown's emotions caused exactly one situation in all these years that actually hurt the team on the field. One. You can speculate that there were others, but in truth, we only know about the game against the Bengals this season.

I'm not spinning anything. I'm pointing out the facts. Brown thought he was still going to play that Sunday. It is an important distinction, one that those of you going on and on about him "abandoning the team" seem to forget.