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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Disco1981, Dec 31, 2018.

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  1. jeh1856

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    They have to wait until March 13. Although you could probably talk now since it would not be tampering. Apparently, with AB’s contract, the trade must happen in the first week.
     
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  2. BobbyBiz

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  3. AskQuestionsLater

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    Arizona, New York, Oakland and San Francisco are all possible targets. My bet is still on Oakland as the primary candidate but Arizona is looking more and more tempting each passing day. Josh Rosen would become even better with someone like Brown and Pittsburgh's defense receives a top flight corner in Patrick Peterson.
     
  4. defva

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    Brown is going no where. It's now being reported that it was Ben belittling and disrespecting Brown all week and that wed. was what escalated the argument and walk off
     
  5. AskQuestionsLater

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    That still does not excuse the fact that he did not participate in the final regular season game. For that matter, it does not excuse Brown for his infamous Facebook Live video either. He has received plenty of chances to redeem himself. He did not.



    Enough is enough. His level of toxicity has now reached unthinkably, colossal levels. If Brown does indeed stay, JuJu and James are the biggest losers in all of this and nevermind the entire lockeroom.


    Brown's Steelers Story is over. He is finished here. Move on from him. Pittsburgh has won Super Bowls without talents like AB in the past. They can win Super Bowls without him by stockpiling for the present and future simultaneously.
     
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  6. defva

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    Ben, went through alot of off the field problems and now on the field and locker room drama. And, last time I checked he's on the team and getting ready to sign an extension. So, yes Brown needs to clean up his act and also, yes... Brown deserve to be on this team.
     
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  7. AskQuestionsLater

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    Ben's situation was far different. Furthermore, Ben accepted the fact he had to change. Brown already had a chance to prove and redeem himself after the Facebook Live Video. He failed.



    He has shown he is quite apathetic when it comes to the team. AB only cares for AB. If he cared about the team, none of this would be transpiring right now.
     
  8. defva

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    Yall keep going back to the facebook live ... look, be men. You were not going to sneak up on the Patriots. Tell them that you are going to beat them, prepare to beat them, and go out and beat them. Any excuse will do ... when you're scared before you even get on the field ... lol. Trade him and get yours and the league's wish. Nobody, outside of steelersnation want us to win another championship
     
  9. Jball

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    Not a fan of the Petersen trade talk. He's too old. Maybe if you got a draft pick as well. But a straight up player swap, I want a younger guy that we can get at least 4 or 5 years of prime play out of.
     
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  10. FootballAnalyst98

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    I doubt Gruden would take brown.
     
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  11. FootballAnalyst98

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    I saw a lot of people say that Pitt should have gotten rid of AB at that point of the Facebook live. It was extremely disrespectful to tomlin.
     
  12. FootballAnalyst98

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    And I wish I can find the guy who I debated months ago that belichick would have gotten rid of AB long time ago.
     
  13. BobbyBiz

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    Franchise QBs are way more important than a WR, even arguably the best one in the game today. And it’s not even close. Ben gets more leeway and wins this battle 100 times out of 100.

    You can win with a mid tier WR corp. You can’t without a franchise QB. Only twice since 2002 has there been a Super Bowl without a Manning, Brady, Brees, or Roethlisberger. How many rings do TO and Randy Moss have again?
     
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  14. defva

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    Well, trade him and see how that works out for the steelers
     
  15. AskQuestionsLater

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    Here is his quotes from Paul Gutierrez:


    “They move him around everywhere. You don’t know where he’s going to be. He can run every route you dream up. I say that about other receivers, but he can run double moves, he can run by you, he can run crossing routes, he’s very good after the catch. What’s the greatest thing about this man, I’ve told all of our receivers, if you get a chance to watch him practice, you’ll see what unlocks the greatness in him. He’s the hardest working man, I think, in football. Hardest working player I’ve ever seen practice. I’ve seen Jerry Rice, I’ve seen a lot of good ones, but I put Antonio Brown at the top. If there are any young wideouts out there, I’d go watch him practice. You figure out yourself why he’s such a good player.”



    Many thought that Khalil Mack would not be traded either; Amari Cooper doubly so. Why bank for a lottery ticket in the NFL Draft? A Hall of Fame Wide Receiver gives you a much better chance. For that matter, Oakland still needs a Wide Receiver. Obtain Brown and that solves one major issue within the Raiders offseason.
     
  16. FootballAnalyst98

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    Raiders are no where nese going anywhere. Mack who would have had far more impact for a longer time they felt go off because why keep him on such a flawed team. Raiders need to completely rebuild. He also said that BEFORE this story came out. This story has I'm sure off turned a lot of people off. The team that trades for AB will be someone like the rams or eagles who feel they are a player or two away. I dont see a team in rebuild trading for him but I could be wrong. They have far more pressing issues than to get a nearing the end of his line AB.
     
  17. AskQuestionsLater

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    This.


    What is more important? An Elite Quarterback or an Elite Wide Receiver? For that matter, who has won more games for their team? Most importantly, which of the two is more difficult to obtain?
     
  18. BobbyBiz

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    Very possible that it could work out quite well if they can land an impact player on defense and a draft pick or two. Also an offense that is more balanced and more consistent since the QB isnt forcing balls to his cancer causing diva WR to keep him quiet and happy leads to an overall better team.
     
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  19. FootballAnalyst98

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    I don't think it will workout well for the steleers personally. But a lot of people have turned their back on him so they want to see him go.
     
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  20. AskQuestionsLater

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    Doubt that is going to dissuade Jon. He also wanted Vontez Burfict the same. He is far worse than Brown in every way imaginable.


    Most importantly though, Jon does not need to trade the farm for Brown either. A player and pick will do. That could be considered.
     
  21. biggbunch68

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    A lot of people? All the people i know that has turned their back on him are the media and some people on here, and what what they think dont mean diddly ...Everything AB has done or they say he has done can be fixed and AB can remain a Steeler .....Trading him wou;ld be a huge mistake IMO
     
  22. thorn058

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    The Brown camp i's trying to change the narrative now. Wexell has an article on 247 where he just tears apart AB''s new attempt at spinning his quitting on the team. Brown telling close confidants he was disappointed in teammates not matching or exceeding his level of commitment this season. This leading to his blow up Wednesday and saying he had had enough
     
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  23. Blast Furnace

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    Too old? He's 28, younger than Brown. I'd do that trade straight up. This team couldn't make a meaningful stop when they needed one. He would instantly help with that.
     
  24. AskQuestionsLater

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    Instantly on the field you say?!


    How about instantly when he arrives in the city?!?!
     
  25. Jball

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    Well, he'll be 29 in July. How many years do you hope to get out of him? I was hoping to do a little better than that. Like I said, I would need a draft pick to go along with that. 2nd or 3rd.
     
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