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a little worried about Mike Adams

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Jul 29, 2014.

  1. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    c'mon, we are not taking 2nd round picks as major projects.:cool:
     
  2. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Mac, you act like he is in his 10th season. DD is just coming into his own and he was a first round pick.
     
  3. ThrowToHeath

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    Too easily we forget how cringing it was anytime Adams was playing and Ben dropped back to pass. Those memories will haunt me for a very long time. I am actually scared just to type that and having the though even close to my mind.

    Even if Adams is getting better, he was at levels of play that no NFL player should have ever been at. The team could have sent a message and cut him to send a message to the rest of the team that playing like garbage will put you out like garbage. They did bench him though which satisfied me, and the line played at a much higher level because of it.

    Also, there are many sub-quality players out there, maybe not even on teams currently, that you can plug in and they can play at a somewhat competent level, even in their early years in the league. A second round pick who can't be competent at all before he was benched? Come on now...

    Finally, Mike Adams was the guy that Mike Tomlin benched BEFORE that four game stretch, if only for a brief period of time, for "not being professionally prepared". This guy is not a quality NFL player and we as fans should abolish our hopes that he will turn into one, because it is the simple truth.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not after 2 seasons I wont. And you are choosing to ignore that Adams played well at RT the season before, no one is saying that he has to play LT, although I'd love it if he could. It also baffles me that no one wants to acknowledge that he was stabbed just a short time prior to those 4 games. Hes a 2nd rd pick, you dont just throw those away. We are in the position we are in because of too many missed draft picks, now we are just going to give up on guys after 2 seasons? Thankfully the Steelers seem to see it as I do.
     
  5. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    from what I've read mike got flattened by McCullers as well as the shark, according to lolley.:cool:
     
  6. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    He's got some horrific game tape for sure, and I'm holding out for the big man... But if Munch can't tutor him up to his abilities it's because he don't want it. This year is his test. If he squanders the chance then boot him.
     
  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    not much word about gilbert I've noticed.:cool:
     
  8. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    no news is good news
     
  9. knab70

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    Tend to see a trend, don't see Adams developing into an adequate player not in Pittsburgh anyway. He may meet other team standards. I have yet seen the enthusiasm intensity nor the energy on a consistent level since entering the NFL. Prove me wrong Adams!! :this:
     
  10. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    That is what is wrong with the mentality
    of this board, where everybody gets a trophy.
    Lets face it Adams and Gilbert are NOT high quality NFL caliber players. They were terribly
    evaluated. We better hope Munchak can work wonders with these two.
     
  11. SteelerJJ

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    I was really hoping that Adams wouldn't be the next Jamain Stephens but I have heard nothing good bout him from this year's camp.
     
  12. FeartheBeard

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    Right? I am really surprised about the overreaction on here about one play. I am going to camp this Sunday. I guess I will need to seek out Mike Adams and see how he is doing.
     
  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I question your mentality for wanting to give up on a 2nd rd pick after 2 seasons, as if you could possibly know he is a bust already.

    Awesome, I was going to give a shout out to you yesterday asking that very question, I knew you mentioned you'd be going soon. Need reports!
    :smiley1:


     
  14. thorn058

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    I don't want to call anyone out here but I think the vast majority of members on this board are suspect when it comes to OL evaluation. I remember many of you who thought Kemo and Colon were good linemen. Given the rest of the bunch they were in perhaps they were the best of the bunch but still that is the best of a very average bunch. Quite possibly the most average OL to ever take a team to a SB. So I think a wait and see attitude with all of the current players would be best.
     
  15. HugeSnack

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    That's a very generous way of phrasing it. :)

    Kemo was never good. I'll never understand the backing that guy had. Colon was terrible for his first three years, but he really pulled it together and I felt like he would have been worth the money we gave him, if he'd been able to stay on the field. I liked him at guard, too. It's rare you see a guard change a game enough to win it, but I think when he pancaked Burfict and continued driving him down like he could push him all the way to China, it changed the momentum. The whole team played better from that point on. I wonder if there's a gif of that somewhere.
     
  16. TerribleTowelFlying

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  17. HugeSnack

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    If he can, and they play great, does that mean they weren't terribly evaluated after all? Or does it mean they are still terrible but Munchak can transform terrible players into good ones? :hmmm:

    I agree that the FO has had trouble evaluating OL talent for most of the last decade. They nailed Pouncey and DeCastro, but they were can't-miss-no-brainer picks. But Gilbert and Adams each have their strong points. Adams is missing an entire phase of the game, and Gilbert has inconsistent stretches. But if the light bulb clicks for Adams, and if Gilbert can iron out those inconsistencies, they will be very good players. I think there's a good chance at least one of those things happens, especially with Munchak.
     
  18. HugeSnack

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    :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: Never gets old.

    Man, that was fast! Thanks TTF.
     
  19. mac daddyo

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    and that made him a good lineman? he outweighs burfict by probably 60-80 lbs. or more. same as adams and shark. probably over 100lbs. in that one easily.

    why as fans would we want to wait and hope that our new coach can make a player out of two 2nd round picks at this stage? why put our great RB's and franchise qb in more danger than we need too? just to hope these two become competent? I'd much rather see what munch can do with guys that already have a decent game about them. then we would have something.

    as far as McCullers flattening adams and everyone writing it off as McCullers is just big, well that's horse cucky too. adams is 6-7 325 lbs. whats he have him by 27 lbs.? they have also had McCullers on a diet, so I doubt there is that much difference.:cool:
     
  20. Diamond

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    If Munch cant make a tackle out of Adams during this camp, then he is hopeless?
     
  21. Blast Furnace

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    I don't think anyone is writing it off, just that it isn't embarrassing like it is getting run over by shark. What, a big defender never flattened a big lineman before?

    Bell jumped up to 4.5 yards a carry by the end of the season and Ben was sacked 7 times over the last 8 games or there about. I don't think our RB or QB are in any grave danger with Adams playing. I don't know how many snaps he was in for over those last 8 games but I do know he performed well when he was in there. Adams is a great athlete, I don't understand why you and others don't want to see him succeed. Really wouldn't worry about Adams holding anyone back, if there is anyone so superior to him, they will get them in there, the coaches are a lot more aware of who they got then we are sitting on our couches.
     
  22. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    it's not just about adams either. if gilbert was solid, we would sign him, but we are still iffy about him. does adams not looking like he might fly, going to force our hand to have to sign gilbert? that's what I'm scared about. more of the same from the front office about having to keep mediocre talent and always looking and hoping the next guy can be the one.

    these second round picks have to come in and play early. that's what the team was banking on or we wouldn't have seen adams thrust into a starting spot. nor gilbert. I just see a max or worse scenario and us talking about it again next year. c'mon munch unleash your Johnson.:cool:
     
  23. steelersrule6

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    :this!:
     
  24. I would not be shocked at all if he is cut. The reviews so far have been underwhelming to say the least.
     
  25. SteelCity_NB

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    Nothing I read on Adams is encouraging. I guess UDFA Howard Jones fed Adams his lunch today.

    Adams showed promise as a run blocking RT as a rookie. The notion that he can play LT at the NFL level should be over. I question whether he has the mental makeup to make it in the NFL at all.
     

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