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30 for 30 O.J.: Made In America

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  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Anyone catch this? Was planning to watch the first part yesterday but missed it. Will re-air Tuesday before the second part, I'll catch up then.

    I love these 30 for 30 films and this one looks to be exceptional.

    There was also just a mini series or something about him? I didn't watch but love these documentaries, definitely will tune in for it. 5 parts, yesterday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I believe.
     
  2. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    I was wanting to watch this too. The miniseries was great. It DID embellish quite a bit but the performances were good. I like 30 for 30 as well. There's sorta already been one about OJ though when they done one about one of the craziest days in sports or something like that where they talked about the NBA Finals, Arnold Palmer's last day, and then the OJ thing all happening the same day. I remember that chase interrupting the finals. I guess this one plans to just focus much more on the case itself and the fallout. I also read the other day that a "friend" of OJ said that he might actually come out and confess to the murders. I highly doubt that but I don't need him to confess. I just hope he suffers miserably til his last breath and I hope the people that let him get away with it do the same. That's the only way justice will ever truly be done.
     
  3. Blast Furnace

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    This one is OJ's whole life, not just the case. From what I read, part 1 was his college days and iconic status in LA because of it, just from college ball. At the end of that part, they showed his first introduction to Nicole, kind of creepy knowing what was in store for her.

    There was an interview with Marcia Clark on ESPN yesterday, she was asked the same thing about him confessing when he gets out, she scoffed. She said if he does, it won't be him taking blame but that Nicole made him do it, because thats how spousal abusers think, they always blame the victim for what happened.
     
  4. blountforcetrauma

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    Wouldn't surprise me at all if he done it that way. I saw a video of an interview he done a few years after the trial and after the interview the reporter stayed in a the room and he left and then when the reporter went to leave the room he was standing outside the door with a banana thrusting it up and down like Norman Bates in Psycho. The reporter then told him how inappropriate she thought that was and just basically told her to lighten up and he was "only joking". What. a. piece. of trash.
     
  5. Blast Furnace

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    This is really good. It covers the whole time period in LA and the racial tension which ultimately plays a roll in the Simpson case. Had the King riot on it in part two, that poor Denny guy nearly beaten to death. Should have run those mf over.

    The 911 calls from Nicole are chilling and heartbreaking knowing what happens.

    Part 3 is on tonight.
     
  6. blountforcetrauma

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    I remember them playing those tapes like crazy every night on Inside Edition and the other tabloid shows every night back then. The whole "race" element was beyond ridiculous. It was all from the race baiting, ambulance chasing, Johnny Cochran. He knew he couldn't win on the merits so he introduced the ridiculous notion that the police just decided one night to screw OJ over and the morons on the jury bought it hook, line, and sinker. The Rodney King thing was also horrible how those people acted and the media was absolutely responsible for it all. They edited the tape that showed King CLEARLY lunged toward the police and had became combative and was on drugs. What the public saw was the edited tape without the context and it set people off. The jury saw the whole tape and that's why the officers weren't found guilty in that case. That guy getting beaten is one of the most sickening images in American history.
     
  7. Blast Furnace

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    Cochran was able to play the race card because it was a very really issue inside the LAPD. This is why ESPN spent so much time covering the events of that time period in LA. By the time the OJ case came around, it was time the "black man" finally gets justice. The irony there is OJ spent his whole life ignoring his race and trying to be white. And it wasn't just the jury but the judge, he was a star struck idiot too and allowed the defense to do whatever it wanted.

    Totally disagree about King, I saw the footage you are talking about, that beating was still over the top and those cops should have went to jail. I'm a police sympathizer, have family and friends who are cops and know what they have to deal with but I can't defend that one.

    Denny had no idea what he was driving into, his radio was broke, thats some real bad luck there. In a way, cosmic justice was served. Of the 3 assailants most remembered in that video, the one that hit him with the brick is serving a life sentence for murder, another one was shot and killed in a club and the other one is the only one to make something of himself and was also the only one to apologize to Denny.

    Part 3 covered the murder and ensuing circus. They actually showed for a split second where Nicole and Goldman lay, covered in blood. Wonder how all those people feel now that were cheering and rooting OJ on during the "chase"? Police captain called them a bunch of losers, lol.

    I always wondered what the glove behind Kato's house was doing there, of course there is the popular theory of Furham planting it but I wondered if it was OJ's intent to frame Kato? Or if he was just so unnerved from what he did that he was doing things irrationally and thought the cops might not find it. He had just brutally murdered two people, pretty much decapitated Nicole and I bet he was surprised by Goldman, so thats another person he had to kill, that has to affect you.
     
  8. Blast Furnace

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    This was awesome, highly recommend it.

    Blount, I'm guessing you did't see it, because you definitely would have been here ranting about the defense team, the soulless bastards. They know he is guilty and they are so smug about getting him off.

    And one point during the trial, they asked for permission to bring the jury to OJ's house, which amazingly, idiot Judge Ito allowed and before the jury got there, they swapped out all pictures of OJ with white people, which was pretty much every picture, and replaced them with him and black people to try and paint him as one of there own, even know OJ always wanted to be white and associated with them over his own.

    I hate everyone of those scumbags on that defense team.

    Oh! And the jurors, you'd be going off on them, only two did the documentary but they would have made you puke. One of them flat out said, the verdict was revenge for all the **** they had been through by the LAPD.

    No one gave a **** about Nicole and Ron. Sad.
     
  9. blountforcetrauma

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    Yep. I knew about all of that stuff already and they even show it in the American Crime Story series on the trial. It's SICKENING dude! That's why I've always said that I despise Cochran, Shapiro, and Bailey. They are absolute scum and Cochran and Bailey have already got their justice and Shapiro will get his one day too. Did it also talk about how the whole defense team put the gloves on that day before Darden asked him to? Trust me I detest them as much as you do. I can't stand that jury either. I mean what are the odds that 12 of the dumbest human beings in the history of the galaxy would wind up in the same room, discussing the same thing, and deciding the fate of one of the worst pieces of human excrement to ever exist? One of those freaking race baiting scumbag jurors even gave a dang Black Panther salute to OJ when it was over! If justice were TRULY "blind", as it was intended to be, that stupid dirtbag would have been in jail for the last 22 years. I feel SO sorry for the Goldman and Brown family because they've suffered so greatly and really have never even been able to tell their story because all the stupid idiots that were politically invested and politically motivated and just used them as a catalyst to air all their so called "grievances". There are a lot of people that deserve to die horrible deaths because of the part they played in this. OJ was just the tip of the iceberg as far as I'm concerned. Still fires me up even to this day.
     
  10. Blast Furnace

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    Yeah, they showed the black panther salute as well as covered the gloves being tried on by the defense team.

    To Marcias credit, she didn't want to have OJ try the glove on, that was all Darden. Never ask a question you don't know the answer to, no one could believe he made such a rookie mistake.

    Worst jury ever, they took about 5 hours to reach a verdict, insane. Trial lasted 296 days and they took 5 hours to deliberate. Like the one juror said, that verdict was all about payback. Ron Goldmans dad hit the nail on the head, it became the Mark Furham trial.
     
  11. blountforcetrauma

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    Oh it DEFINITELY became the Mark Fuhrman trial. The miniseries goes in to how she begged him not to use the gloves too. Did it talk about Dershowitz sending Johhny Cochran a fax from Harvard telling him to introduce a "Columbian Necktie" theory? He was a Harvard law professor that was helping with the defense and he sent him that to make the jury start thinking that Nicole must have been involved in a drug ring and was killed as payback. Just the epitome of low dude and the jury was so out for blood that they took whatever they could and used it for their own justification. You're right about Ito too. That dude was a stupid moron that was in way over his head.
     
  12. Blast Furnace

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    They didn't cover that but I remember that from when the case was happening. Or maybe I heard that after he got off. Can't remember the details, I thought it was OJ who said that.

    Doesn't surprise me, everyone of them were just out trying to make a name for themselves, justice certainly wasn't the goal. When Shapiro and Bailey were both asked if they think he did it, they both danced around it and gave political answers. They both know they got a murderer off.

    There was a little pleasure in seeing how annoyed Shapiro was that OJ got 33 years and that he was sentenced on the anniversary of the day he was acquitted. Sickening, still doesn't care about the victims all this time later.
     
  13. Diamond

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    Maybe there was some kind of devine justice resulting from this bungled trial, Johnny Cochran got the death penalty and OJ is rotting away in prison.........
     

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