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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Mar 15, 2021.

  1. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    as have i.:cool:
     
  2. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    and why not? :shrug::smiley1::cool:
     
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  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    He had 105 targets for 961 yards in 2019 according to PFF. The 1047 yards was when he was with Buffalo, forgot he started with them. JuJu is better, he’d easily put up big numbers in this offense. And yeah, Mitchell Swartchz whoever the heck that is said that and the guy he was talking with said he thinks JuJu would light it up in KC, LOL, you always do that, post things that contradict you. Oh! Thats right, it’s only the people who agree with your opinion that matters :goofy:

    Nothing, I was explaining why you don’t like him.
     
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  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You and AB are super fragile if you think that was throwing shade :facepalm:

    A receiver should have confidence in himself. JuJu looked up to AB, wasn’t throwing shade.

    You know why AB hates JuJu, because his teammates had the nerve to vote JuJu team MVP. The sensitive fragile little smurf couldn’t handle that.
     
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  5. The Sodfather

    The Sodfather Well-Known Member

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    You guys really need to stop throwing the tennis ball for this mongrel.
     
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  6. FootballAnalyst98

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    Sammy did not . Mitchell Schwartz was the chiefs starting Right tackle the last few years......

    And he's not better than a healthy Sammy. A healthy sammy put up that 1047 as the NUMBER 1 option in Buffalo. He just can't stay healthy. JuJu is a more durable receiver. That's about it.
     

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  7. FootballAnalyst98

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    So why doesn't he hate heath Miller or leveon? They all won team mvps in years after AB previously won team mvp if that's why he hates juju? No he doesn't like him because people like you tried to equate him to ABs level and then juju himself got big headed. And yea it wasn't a shot. We've seen everybody in similar situations post a shot like that with the prior guy in the background looking at him. It was clear what he was doing.
     
  8. FootballAnalyst98

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    Watkins ate but he didn't put up elite numbers. He never even got over 700 yards. Juju wouldn't put up the numbers to get the PAYDAY hes looking for. He obviously would produce some but it wouldn't be huge. It would be like around 500-700 yards 50-60 catches and a few tds.
     
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  9. S.T.D

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    We are , and we were going Defense in 2 of the 1st three rounds.
    So says nostraSTD.:rawk:
     
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  10. Blast Furnace

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    Oh please, if JuJu had Sammys career stats You’d never call him a number 1. He had like 3 complete seasons with under a 1000 yards.

    And 90 targets, 104 targets, bfd LOL 14 targets difference. PPF has 104 but whatever, another silly point by you. The targets would be there.

    You’ll have to ask mr fragile soft baby man. He’s screwed in the head, who knows what makes that punk tick.

    What people were saying was JuJu could step in as the number #1. Are you going to argue that if he continued to put up nearly 1500 yards that wouldn’t be replacing AB’s production?

    It wasn’t a shot, you’re sensitive just like AB is. Like I said, he looked up to him, he was saying I can be the number 1 guy.
     
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  11. FootballAnalyst98

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    The 90 targets was a sticking point for me because less than sonly 1 more than tyreek while tyreek played 4 less games. And with 90 targets look at his numbers.
    Sammy was only the number 1 in Buffalo and with the rams for that 1 year. His career numbers are bad because he can't stay healthy. Not due to lack of ability. And also that year Sammy had those targets I kept referencing 90 becuase that was only 1 more than tyreek who missed 4 games...

    And again like others have stated he got those numbers as a NUMBER 2. I wish I could find the boards but people were arguing that it didn't matter that all the coverage was focused on AB and he was a number 1 still but it was primarily because they liked him more than AB. Anyone who knew ball knew AB was far better and juju wouldn't come close to his production. This is a guy that had a better 6 year stretch than anyone in history... to act like that was so easily replaceable was insulting to the greatness of AB.

    And you said he hated juju for team mvp so he should have hated others for it. I shouldn't ask him because I don't think team mvp was the primary reason. It was because people tried to act like juju was on his level. In his video where he shaded juju he didn't say you guys said juju was "team mvp" he said you guys said he was a "great receiver".

    There were steeler fans all under hsi Twitter saying we don't need you we got juju and he did that whole im ready thing etc..
     
  12. biggbunch68

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    Former Lions’ WR Kenny Golladay reached agreement with the New York Giants, per source. It’s a 4-year, $72 million deal up to $76 million, including $40 M gtd for Golladay,
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

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    Steelers beginning to make moves on outside FA. Killebrew will replace Ola.



     
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  14. biggbunch68

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    ?? either one of these players any good :shrug:
     
  15. Blast Furnace

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    Depth signings plus they needed to replace Ola for ST, Killebrew is good at that.
     
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  16. Vox Ferrum

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  17. AFan

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    Neither of these guys too many non special teams snaps the last 2 yrs, so I’d guess they’re not great.
     
  18. FootballAnalyst98

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    He got a good deal.
     
  19. Thor

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    That injuries held Watkins back are nonsense. Extrapolating his numbers from seasons he battled any injury to fill out a full season still show paltry results. Even more so for a WR drafted #4 overall and who has gone from a number one option to a number three. That said, many see his production considering his potential and hype as 'number two.'

    Stating he's better than JuJu because of ability at this point is equally nonsense. Watkins has been in the league a full six years now. If he can't stay healthy enough to produce by now, that's a problem. You said it yourself: it's about what you do on the field. Watkins has a lot of physical gifts, no doubt. But it hasn't lead to production.

    This is a significant theme you keep bringing to your AB/JuJu debate you need to be careful of. While you may have encountered folks that fit your contention, they may not have been here, and may not be the people you're currently arguing with and assigning it to.

    I, for one, will always respect the results Brown turned in on the field, and the work he did to get there. Truly a great combination of talent and work ethic. I also fully supported his getting traded. His antics could not be pinned simply to JuJu getting voted the team MVP, or from some perceived disrespect in others liking JuJu more, etc. He was unraveling before that, and continued to spiral downward.

    But again, your on the field results measure. He was negatively affecting the team.

    All of this is more along your theme above. Again, you may have known people that thought Brown was fully replaceable with JuJu. But the circles I was in thought things like JuJu's team MVP were a cool gesture because he entered the league as a 20 year old kid that worked to contribute right away, and in doing so helped make a teammate - one already considered across the league as one of the best - even more dangerous.

    And again, to your on the field measure: JuJu made the team better. But Brown (who had already started to unravel) couldn't handle it, and sought to make it worse. That's the on the field measure many think of when saying he needed to go.
     
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  20. Disco1981

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    Haeg has started 38 games! :shrug:
     
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  21. D0bre Shunka

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    Juju is Steeler through and through. He’s like Ward and you have to keep him. He’s the thread that keeps the ole school loyalty relevant. Baltimore put a lot of money on the table trying to steal him away. Yes, sadly we’ll lose him next year but you can’t find that or pay enough for that kind of dedication anymore. Not in the FA era. When the yards are tough and things are not clicking offensively., Shuster will get you those tough short yards and TDS. He’ll give the O the boost needed. All of this and he’s what 24? He’s Ward when we need him. If I had my druthers I would find a way to keep him here forever, and he makes it easy because he wants to stay with the team and city that gave him his shot. You just can’t buy that anymore.
    There’s a lot more football and loyalty in him to give.

    He will never be a #1, I’ll give you that, but don’t knock the 2s and 3s. Like the work force they’re the building blocks that keep the wheels turning.He’s more valuable than you can see right now.
     
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  22. AFan

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    Yes, but only 9 total the last 3 seasons. Only 3 in the last 2.
     
  23. biggbunch68

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    Damn didnt take him long to find a team, i guess Den would rather pay 9.5 mill for a player than trade a pick for Nelson:shrug:.. Fuller was just cut today


    Broncos, CB Kyle Fuller agree to one-year, $9.5 million deal. (via
    Tom Pelissero
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  24. FootballAnalyst98

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    I saw him as a number one produce 1047 and 9 tds in 13 games with garbage at qb you know one of the excuses people made for juju the year before last. He is a bust because he can't stay healthy. It's why no one won't give him the keys as the #1 guy. He isn't even a reliable 2 at this point. He's good to have because he can make plays he was big for kc in the playoffs a year ago but he cannot stay on the field.

    If I could dig back the forms I would but I'm not doing all that to try to prove a point to you. You're Lol sitting here trying to speak for eveeyone on this based about what was said and not said.. I know what people were saying back then and now are walking it back. Juju himmself even thought it. That's why HE said "I'm ready" in a picture with ab in the background looking at him catching a td.

    And the Steelers were dealing with his antics becuase he was so highly productive. Its also why despite all his baggage he still has a job. He though in the end wanted out of Pitt. Rememeber he requested a trade. They didn't cut him or trade him without his request so it isn't like it was because he was damaging the team. Thats why Tomlin let him get away with all the things that came out later on like his missing meetings, showing up late, lashing out, etc.. but you can't keep someone that destructive around when they dotn want to be there. It's how you force your way out of a situation.

    I dont know the circles you were in, I wasn't even responding to you, so idk why you're mentioning what you and your circles were saying.

    And actually ab made the team better. His impact on the offense opened up the game for everyone else. Juju is not opening up the game for anybody. Ab is the reason he got that mvp. No AB and juju doesn't put up anywhere close to those numbers as the #1 option.
     
  25. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that's more then banner.:cool:
     
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