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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by fearthesteel, Jan 4, 2020.

  1. fearthesteel

    fearthesteel Well-Known Member

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    in my opinion the steelers always try to draft by team needs. i would like to see them draft by bpa, switch it up. if jonathan taylor is available im taking him he looks like a hardnose runner. steeler style. last year i wanted a.j. brown and look see how he's turning out.

    for example look at the 2018 draft t. edmunds was a huge reach because we needed safety help. imo take best player available. then in positions of need get a free agent in. a free agent cant be worse than a wasted pick not knowing what ur gonna get and reaching like in t edmunds case. what do you think?
     
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  2. AskQuestionsLater

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    Free Agency and the Draft compliment each other. Unless you are rebuilding, you really should not over prioritize one over the other barring extreme circumstances. For example, the 2015 Denver Broncos had key Free Agent pickups that would lead them to a Super Bowl win. That said, look at how the Broncos performed after maxing out. It would take them four years to find another good Quarterback.



    As for the Steelers needs for the draft, unless J.K. Dobbins or Chuba Hubbard is under consideration, I would take the highest graded Offensive Lineman; Interior preferably. Now, if shifting Matt Feiler to Left Guard then allowing Chuks and Zach Banner to duke it out for the Right Tackle spot is the main objective, head for an Interior Defensive Lineman.



    Neville Gaillimore, Raekwon Davis, Leki Fotu, or even Rashard Lawrence would be my picks. Each of these players can not only play the nose but also play some 3-4 DE; Raekwon and Rashard especially. Those two might get the nod but Neville reminds me fondly of Javon although he is a twin turbocharged version of Javon as he has far more athletic ability.



    Now, if Brycen Hopkins is still on the board by our pick, he should be in play. Vance has regressed it appears and Nick Vannet cannot seem to offer much of anything. Add Vance's injury woes and Tight End is also a position in play. Keep in mind that if Ben is coming back, he will need a reliable safety value. Brycen Hopkins is as safe as they come.
     
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  3. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    The highest rated tight end in the 2nd. Nose tackle in the 3rd.

    The tight end and nose position to me is the most urgent.

    With the possible release of McDonald and Vannett being an UFA and Gentry not screaming starter it is an immediate need.

    Hargrave will get more then the Steelers can pay and that leaves Dan Dan the lifetime contract man. Can you imagine? Another immediate need.
     
  4. SDOT

    SDOT Well-Known Member

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    They did BPA forever and that's how we never had any good DBs.
     
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  5. Brews Crew

    Brews Crew Well-Known Member

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    I agree and I've been telling family & friends for the past several years that the Steelers need to get back to this philosophy. I did a little digging and found this article that supports that they were actually the innovators of this practice back in the '70s while building a dynasty, but switched from that practice and IMO reached on picks and lacked adequate debt at times.

    “When we draft our collegiate players, we not only look to fill needs. Our philosophy is to draft the best player available.” — Chuck Knoll

    https://artplusmarketing.com/a-draft-strategy-that-changed-the-nfl-1204b70399a6

    This draft will be a challenge due to the lack of picks so they do not have the luxury of reaching for a player and need to take the best available regardless of position.
     
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  6. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    Watching this years draft is going to make us cringe as we watch 49 top prospects get taken.
     
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  7. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    Chuck Noll or Chuck Knox?
     
  8. mytake

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    I am writing in Minkah Fitzpatrick with the 18th pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, then the next 32 doesn't look so bad.
     
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  9. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    The 2nd-3rd-4th best RB in the draft should be available.
    Is this a deep draft class? Asking any draft experts. What positions are stocked well this year?
     
  10. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Walter football has us drafting the QB from Colorado, Montez, in the second round. I didn't like what I read about him. He has a cannon for an arm and they compare his arm strength to Josh Allen but they said he is "timid" in the pocket and falls apart under pressure. I say who needs a long range project like that, let's draft a position that can help us right away like TE or OL.
     
  11. MojaveDesertPghFan

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    And it was even a quote ............."Knoll". :facepalm:
     
  12. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I won’t cringe. I’ll just ask myself “would this guy help us more (especially in 2020 and 2021) than our 1st team All Pro safety?”, and the answer will be no in all cases.
     
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  13. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    There's good depth at RB and WR
     
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  14. Roonatic

    Roonatic Well-Known Member

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    What about olinemen? Think any go in the top 10?
     
  15. Hawaii 5-0

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    OT Andrew Thomas from Georgia has a good chance of being selected in the top 10.
     
  16. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Andrew Thomas is projected to go in the top 10
     
  17. AskQuestionsLater

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    I am not writing off either Chuks or Zach to overtake Big Al after Big Al is gone after 2020. For that matter, I am more intrigued as to what will become of Matt Feiler in terms of position. I would assume that, to reduce the level of needs on the Offensive Line, Matt Feiler is kicked inside to take over for Ramon at Left Guard.



    That leaves the Right Tackle spot wide open. Declare it an open competition between Banner and Chuks. May the best man win.
     
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  18. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Exactly this.
     
  19. AskQuestionsLater

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    Minkah will be 23 anyways by the time the 2020 NFL Draft rolls around. There are not many players in this draft who will be instant impact First Team All Pro Rookies anyways. The only ones I see are as follows;


    Isaiah Simmons


    Chase Young


    Derrick Brown


    Andrew Thomas


    Tyler Biadasz





    That is it as I see it. Want to know something fascinating though Blast?!?! Here you go!!



    All of the aforementioned players are either going into the Top 5 to Top 15. For us to acquire a First Team All Pro with pick 18 is truly an accomplishment to be noted!! :)
     
  20. AskQuestionsLater

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    I would not pay too much attention to Charlie Campbell anyway. He is a bit off his analysis of certain players for teams; Steven Montez being among them. Even more so, he has some UNUSUAL reports before the Draft commences.



    His most infamous report came back days before the 2016 Draft. Before Day One commenced, Charlie was heavily implying that the careers of both Myles Jack and Jaylon Smith were over due to their injuries. He could have not been more wrong.



    Of the two, Jaylon has had the greater success. That said, Jaylon Smith is the far better of the two as Myles severly underperformed this season. Within that same vein, we will never see the legendary speed and explosivness from Jaylon that we saw back before the events in the 2015 Fiesta Bowl.
     
  21. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    Negative for me. Fitzpatrick was worth what they gave up. Slam dunk. But alas they got him all due to the injury to Davis and Kelly's below average play. I thank both! Our starting secondary sans one (who the jury is still deliberating) were all signed or traded for from the outside.
     
  22. defva

    defva Well-Known Member

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    No, we've been doing bpa for a certain position ... that's how we ended up with burns and edmunds. The two guys that we wanted were takened ... so these two were consolations. Hoping that they would excel
     
  23. HeinzMustard

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    We are doomed. RB Dobbins in round 2.
     
  24. AskQuestionsLater

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    Him or Najee Harris would be my choices. Both have plenty of tread on their proverbial tires. Of the two, J.K. Dobbins would be my choice.



    That said, I can easily see him being the first back selected in the draft. As good as Swift is, Dobbins to me has greater upside as a whole.
     
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  25. thesteeldeal

    thesteeldeal Well-Known Member

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    I get the allure of drafting a RB in the 2nd we can envision as a work horse and the future of the position but Conner though injury prone is here for another year at least. Snell will certainly get a bigger opportunity and I’m thinking he makes the jump in conditioning that will help him. I see Whyte sticking as a change of pace so I doubt we look at that type of a RB. Add in the fact we have limited draft capital a RB selected that early would be expected to play early and often. I just don’t see it especially when the draft is extremely deep at RB. IMO maybe with our early 4th....
     
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