12-4 Fire Bruce Immediately!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well the bengals are in the playoffs, aren't they?

If logic tells you that they're more of a contender than 10 other AFC teams since they still have a shot at a championship.

And even eliminating the Bengals, those 5 games against playoff contenders is still more than every other team in the playoffs except the Bengals and Packers.

I have to ask again, if a playoff team is not a contender, then what exactly is? How do you define it?

 

slickster10, you are the number one BA sympathizer on this new board. Did you read the comments on your post? I'm sorry but it is overwhelmingly not in favor of BA. As you can see most don't agree with you. Most would love to see him gone including me. And just to think, PWP didn't post yet. What does it take for you to understand that this guy is not the one. Infect, he has hurt this team in a major way sense he became the OC. The major thing that he did was to change the philosophy of the organization that had been sucsessful for years by going to this pass happy soft approach that hasen't worked.

I'm quite sure you have not read all the reasons why he should be gone, but just read a few of the comments that people made about your post incase you didn't take the time to read them:

I don't understand why the record is his shield-all regardless of how crappy he calls it. We are ranked terribly for scoring offense and played mostly crappy teams this season. Yes, 12-4 and fire Arians, except I'm being dead serious.
Too bad for Whis he had a green QB, and still managed to score as many PPG (if not more) than good old BA. Point is we've seen minimal improvement (if any) in our offense since Ben entered the league. Either that's on Ben or BA. Much easier to find a competent OC than it is to find a franchise QB, so bye-bye BA.

Yeah it should be clear at this point this team has been winning IN SPITE of arians
Our offense has been terribly inconsistent scoring points the past 5 seasons, yet we still remain competitive (thank you, defense). We can do better at OC.

Forget our record. Forget yards. Is anyone actually happy with this offense?
I'm so glad you're content that the Steelewrs have scored a grand total of three TDs in the past TEN QUARTERS with Ben under center.

Newsflash: New England scored that many in the 4th quarter alone today vs Buffalo.

I hope that puts things into perspective.
KW did it with a different mindset. The Steelers score roughly the same PPG with a smashmouth, ball control style as this finesse, pass-happy team does now.

This offense has no identity.
Still manipulating stats to suit your purpose.

If a team fails to make the playoffs, they should be a win. SHOULD be a win. Record at that point means nothing to me... unless they're a rare team that goes 11-5 or something but missed out.

How do we perform against actual contenders? yeah...

I'm not knocking our record. I'm knocking our record as justification that all is well.
Earned what? Mediocrity? As usual stinky, you are in the minority on this point. It's you and maybe 2 other BA apologists on this board that are happy with BA and this anemic offense.
Yep, and we're happy about that. Sorry if it doesn't seem that way. That's not the issue. All of this is in response to BA apologists.

We can win the SB this year. I do believe that.

And even if we won it, I'm still not happy with BA, and it wouldn't prove he was effective. Not unless this keystone kops version of an offense actually started scoring.


slickster10, I would hope that you would change your opinion about Arians and get on board with the FIRE BRUCE ARIANS IMMEDIATELY band wagon for the good of the team. Let him move on with his lifes work, sitting at home watching real OC's do work on TV.

 

Here is something else for you slick:

diehardsteel, I'm backing SteelerGlen on the FIRE BRUCE ARIANS IMMEDIATELY comment. Any chance to let it be known that this guy should be gone is a good comment. His time is up for real. He doesn't have to really be fired unless he wants to come back because his contract is up after the season is over. The offense has steadily regressed since he became OC. There are so many situations that prove it. What else do you need to see that proves to you that Arians has no clue as far as being a competent OC. Lets hope that the Steelers do something out of the ordinary and hire Norv Turner to be the new OC, if he is let go by the Chargers. As I always say, Bruce Arians couldn't carry Norv Turners jock strap as far as being a competent OC.

And please, don't let me get into all the reasons why Arians should be gone as the Steelers OC because there are to many reasons to list. Let me say these few things. First of all, Arians went back to his old ways after Mr. Rooney made his wishes known about him working on running the football a priority last year. He went right back to all the passing which hasen't worked this year. They scored 7 against the Ravens in the first game, 10 against the Texans, 17 against the Jaguars all in the first half, 13 against the Chiefs, 14 against the Browns in the first game, 3 against the 49ers, and 13 against the Browns on Sunday. Thats 17 points or less in 7 games. Thats sad for an offense with so much talent, and supposely a high powered offense that was suppose to score so many points this year.

Also, Arians got rid of all the legit full backs and started using TE's as lead blockers, (see former Steelers full back John Kuhn of the Packers who made the Pro-Bowl). There are many more reasons, need I say more?

 

Here is something else for you slick, posted by 12to88. It was so good, I saved it:

12to88:
The offense is inefficient. It's that simple. Yes, he is working with a terrible o-line, but so is Aaron Rodgers. Here's my list of Bruce criticisms:

1. Red zone playcalling and red zone efficiency
2. Too many plays take too long to develop...Receivers run 10-12 yard patterns on a 3rd and 3. !!!!!
3. Pass routes are easy to cover--see the Ravens' CB's statement about covering the Steelers' receivers. (Gruden on MNF: "That's poor route distribution, there.")
4. Situational playcalling. Bruce is the King of empty set, 5-wide...on a 2nd down and 2 or 3. The guy's a bona fide idiot; Rod Woodson called him out on this a couple of years ago, with a wry smile and shaking his head."Why in the world on a 2nd and short are you dictating to the defense that you have no intention of running the ball?"
5. Offense can't put games away when given the opportunity. (see #10)
6. TEs are not utilized nearly enough, but this is partly an o-line problem, too.
7. No screen passes that work...I don't think bruce knows how to design a screen pass.
8. He removed the FB from the offense. Another brilliant move (eyes rolling).
9. Typical Bruce series: 1st and 10: Mendenhall off tackle for 3. 2nd and 7: Ben is hurried, incomplete; 3rd and 7: empty set, Ben is sacked. (BROKEN RECORD)
10. The results. They are what they are. This team too often STRUGGLES to put points on the board against mediocre to bad offenses. I can accept it happening once a season, but NOT 3-4 times per season. The personnel on this offense is too damn good to not be putting up 27+ points a game.

 

Steel, I think the Pats game was a game out of tired of losing to these guys every year. They came together as a team and played almost a perfect game except for the woes in the red zone. If not for that it would have been a blow out. The Pats defense is so bad this year that they can and will be beat. They will not advance to the Super Bowl because of there bad defense. If we don't beat them, the Ravens will.

With that said, my wish and prayer is that the Steelers get it done in the playoffs. I hope somebody steps up big in the playoffs. Wallace needs to pick up his game, Woodley needs to get his act in gear. and the o-line needs to put together a heck of a playoff protection performance. If those three things happen and the rest of the team plays true to form, we will be alright.

 

Here is another great comment about your boy Arians Slickster:

By JackAttack5958:

Have you been watching our offensive ineptitude lately? BA runs the most inefficient offense in the NFL. If the Broncos are close in the 4th quarter, anything can happen. We ain't the New Orleans Saints, the Green Bay Packers or the New England Patriots on offense. In fact, WE DON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE!

I thought that was very appropriate.

 

Our offense has been inept at times for various reasons. Arians is the top offensive person responsible, so he should take the blame. I agree that we were 12-4 in spite of Arians.

Look at our road performance, it's atrocious:
Loss at Baltimore 35-7
Win at Indy 23-20 (Curtis Painter, Kerry Collins? Really?)
Loss at Houston 17-10
Win at Arizona 32-20 (much closer game than final score)
Win at Cincy 24-17 (much closer than it should have been...see home victory)
Win at KC 13-9
Loss at San Francisco 20-3
Win at Cleveland 13-9

Three of those wins were against very inferior teams with a 4 point or less margin. We were 0-3 against legitimate playoff contenders (Baltimore, Houston, San Fran) and we are the #5 seed that will have to win all the remaining games on the road. I'm as big a fan as anyone, but I'm also a realist. I don't see this offense putting up enough points to win very many road games.

 

For the love of anything and everything, holy or unholy ,people please wake up and smell the coffee. How can anyone in their right mind be satisfied with the anemic offense that we display week in and week out. The scariest part to me is that yeah we are 12-4,yeah we are in the playoffs ,but we are starting to resemble the Cowher teams of the past. Do we really want to relive the days of being perennial playoff contender and perennial playoff disappointment? I know I dont. The window is small with this team and the NFL in general.We are wasting precious time with the talent that is currently on this team. It's a really simple question and an even simpler answer.So ask yourself are you happy with our offensive production? I know you cant answer yes to that.(sanely).Next answer this,who is ultimately responsible for the production of this offense? The OC maybe? now for all of those who still can't figure out the solution to the problem and want to put blame on the QB then the next and last question will solve the problem. If it is indeed the QBs fault as to why this offense is run like a H.S. offense ,who is ultimately responsible for that? .... ANSWER: :FBAI!: WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE AND MUCH MORE TO GAIN!

 

Okay then, how many other teams have played a schedule with as many "contenders" (as defined by you) as the Steelers

Even by your definition, they've still played more games against contenders than anyone except the Bengals (you have to eliminate GB since they played Denver).

And they've got to 9th hardest schedule in the league. You can deny it or try to spin away from it all you want, but the Steelers schedule was anything but easy or a cream puff this year. The exact opposite is true.

 

For all you non-believers in Firing Arians... Let's look at another example...

New England is the #1 seed in the AFC finishing 13-3... Does that mean NE should be happy with their pathetic defense? Heck NO, NE is winning despite their pathetic defense (exact opposite of our problem). Just because they finished 13-3 does not mean everything is great in NE.

Anyone in denial that our offensive play calling needs some major overhauling must be satisfied scoring 13 on a pathetic Cleveland team or 13 on a pathetic KC team, or heck for that matter just 14 at home against Cleveland, 3 against SF, etc etc etc.

 

From reading a lot of post on this board it’s already apparent who will be the goat if we lose in the playoffs. The score could be 45-47 but if the Steelers lose all the blame will point towards Bruce. If Rooney wasn’t satisfied with Bruce he would be gone; If Ben didn’t like Bruce there would probably be a big push to get rid of him; If Tomlin didn’t like Bruce there would surely be a big push to get rid of him. No matter what I post if you’re against Arians you’re going to stick with that and I can respect that. If you like Arians, just like the owners like him, you’re going to stick with that too. The Steelers always win ugly, we have done it for years but a lot of you look at Green Bay, New England, Saints, and etc. and just fall in love. With all of our Super Bowl Trophies, the journeys towards getting them were never spectacular. WE HAVE ALWAYS WON UGLY NO MATTER WHO THE OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR WAS, SO GET USE TO IT.

-Slick

 

Seems the FO is pretty satisfied. Look none of us on this board are coaching staff or part of the FO, so why do we debate personnel decisions continually? In what time in history did the Steelers ever put up points similar to the kinds of numbers Brady and Brees and Rodgers put up?

This is reminiscent of Deljz or what his name was constantly running down Colbert. LOL

I am very satisified and have full confidence in our front office so I leave those decisiosn to them. They see more and know more of what is happening then any of us fans.

Bman

 

However, everyone is mad about only scoring 13 points against the Clowns............look at the Quaterback we had out there yesterday, he is still hurt and the only reason he was playing hurt was because the steelers don't want to break out the WD-40 next week.

 

The way that the rules favor the offenses in this day and age, which is proven by all the record setting performances this year. How is it that our offense with all its weapons remains at or below average yet the defense with the rules obviously stacked against them remain elite....hmmm and I dont want to hear about injuries along the OL because the defense has been missing key pieces as well. I'm just saying.

 

First, I am not saying that we don't need improvements, and I am not saying that I am satisfied with the output on offense, but, as has been pointed out earlier, Cleveland's defense is in the top 10 in the NFL, they are far from pathetic on defense.

Yep!

 

Dear BA apologists: We finished the year tied with Tennesee (at 21st & 22nd) in scoring offense. How can you be "very satisfied" with that? Only 10 teams scored fewer points than us. Yes we're in the playoffs but can't you see we're there in spite of this BA offense rather than because of it? C'mon man!

:FBAI!:

 

LOL right I agree am very satisfied with our O......you dont have to score 50 a game when you have our kind of D....but some people will always want BA fired...