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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by mac daddyo, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    mac daddyo, Apr 17, 2014
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  2. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    TerribleTowelFlying, Apr 17, 2014
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  3. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    I got as far as seeing David Johnson ranked as "Never hurts to find a solid contributor", and realised that I would never be able to understand their scoring system.
     
    Thigpen82, Apr 17, 2014
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  4. Busman

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    Man thats sucks for Sweed. He has to be terrible to not make it in the CFL. The Ottawa Red Blacks lol

    Bman
     
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  5. Busman

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  6. 58stillers

    58stillers

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    Not sure I understand his logic..... a late draft pick that never sees the field & cut in first year is a better pick than a 2nd round Ziggy hood. I understand the Ziggy hate, but he did play a decent amount of time.

    Plus Worlids/heyward in the same grade as Shipley, Batch and some special teams players.
     
    58stillers, Apr 17, 2014
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  7. contract

    contract Well-Known Member

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    He can't catch the ball. It's hard to play WR if you can't catch.
     
    contract, Apr 17, 2014
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  8. contract

    contract Well-Known Member

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    Hood was a 1st rd pick.
     
    contract, Apr 17, 2014
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  9. contract

    contract Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Pouncey is dominant, but the idea that you should expect an awful lot more with your 1st rd pick is absurd. At worst he's an above average starting C. Any time you snag an above average starter in any round, that is a healthy win.
     
    contract, Apr 17, 2014
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  10. CanadianSteel

    CanadianSteel Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he's terrible... Maybe he just can't get his mind right? He has all the physical tools, but ???
     
    CanadianSteel, Apr 17, 2014
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  11. Busman

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    he just cant catch. As contract pointed out its tough to make it as a WR when you can't catch.. Maybe he went to the Ike Taylor school of Stone Hands

    Bman
     
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  12. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    I see they had gilbert listed as a 3rd rounder?

    I have to say we are still giving up 40+ sacks a game and until bell took over, our run game hasn't been much in pouncey's time here.:cool:
     
    mac daddyo, Apr 17, 2014
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  13. contract

    contract Well-Known Member

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    Every season Pouncey has played more than 1 game crushed last season in terms of rushing stats.
     
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  14. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    PFF sure knows their stuff. :rolleyes:
     
    HugeSnack, Apr 18, 2014
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  15. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    It's funny, I have been one of those that has stated that Pouncey is overrated and should be moved this offseason if the comp is reasonable (because I see contract negotiation distractions/impasse coming). Yet, even I can't say with a straight face that he was a bad pick. I think he's overrated as an All-Pro selection, but he's still a top 10 (lower half IMO) center, and that's at least even value wherever you drafted him.

    Also, I'm not sure exactly how they grade each play, but I can't see Gilbert grading as a net positive overall as a second rounder. No way, no how. I think spending a 2nd on Gilbert is in the -0.5 territory in their scoring range. I think they scored the Pouncey pick too low, and the Gilbert pick too high. There are others I would quibble with, but those are the two that jump out.
     
    Steel_Elvis, Apr 18, 2014
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  16. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    exactly.:cool:
     
    mac daddyo, Apr 18, 2014
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  17. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    David Johnson should be higher.
     
    HugeSnack, Apr 18, 2014
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  18. dobbler-33

    dobbler-33 Well-Known Member

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    I'll take the wait and see approach on the recent lineman drafted now that we hopefully have a line coach that can seemingly get the most out of them. However, Pouncey is not what he's billed to be, and I hope Munchak points that out!
     
    dobbler-33, Apr 18, 2014
    dobbler-33, Apr 18, 2014
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