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Derek Moye

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steelgirl84, Oct 17, 2014.

  1. steelgirl84

    steelgirl84 Well-Known Member

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    I just don't get what the hell we're doing with these receivers. Derek made some great catches last season, he caught almost anything that was near him. Then he missed a long ball and we didn't see him again. Derek is tall- which is what we lack in our receivers. They have him like 1 try- then forgot about him. We went and spent money getting Lance Moore. So he missed a ball or 2 against Cleveland. No one played good against Cleveland. (That still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.) Darius Heyward-Bey (I don't think I spelled that right) had a great preseason. He hasn't gotten much play at all. They decide that Justin Brown and Markus Wheaton are better than Lance & Darius. How so they make these decisions?! I mean, Markus is better this year. But is he better than the others? I doubt it.
     
  2. ThrowToHeath

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    Wheaton is far and wide the second best receiver on the team. After that, they are all kinda really on the same playing field. Bryant might become more valuable due to his size and redzone ability, but we will have to see. Moye also dropped a lot of balls in camp and preseason. And is slow and not strong.
     
  3. biggbunch68

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    Wheaton hasn't shown me anything yet. Ithink JB is going to be a better wr than him.. but im pulling for all our young wr"s
     
  4. ThrowToHeath

    ThrowToHeath Well-Known Member

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    Why do you think JB will be better? Are you a Penn State fan?
     
  5. biggbunch68

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    no, i just got a feeling. this is is his first year and wheatons sec. and i already like his play better . everyone one was on him for drping a td and fumbling but wheaton also missed a td and droped a few balls this year..
     
  6. SteelerGlenn

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    Derek Moye had two catches last year, TWO! As a matter of fact that's all he has for his career, TWO stinking catches!
    What are the Steelers thinking?
    People were wondering why JB was playing over Moore, well we know why now.
    DHB? Yeah can't believe the dumb Steelers coaches are riding this All -Pro on the bench!
    Maybe, Just Maybe the coaches are putting the best options on the field on Gameday and we don't have a team full of Pro Bowlers riding the bench and practice squad.
     
  7. steelgirl84

    steelgirl84 Well-Known Member

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    First of all, I said that he made some good catches, I said nothing about how many. So he dropped 1 or 2 in the preseason. WHO didn't? He's tall- which is something we do not have. But I suppose you'll find a way to prove he's short.
    So why is JB playing over Moore? Not because he dropped a pass when we played the Browns. I hadn't realized he was the only one to make a mistake that game.
    I'm not saying that DHB is another Hines Ward. My thoughts were that since the Steelers went out & got these guys- that they'd give them more of an opportunity.
    If the coaches are putting the best options on the field on gameday, you'd think that maybe, just maybe we'd be a little better than we are. If you don't agree with what I have to say- whatever. You're entitled to your opinion. But you really don't have to be such a sarcastic idiot about it. I was excited to have found this forum & am new to it. I doubt I'll be sticking around much longer though.
     
  8. ThrowToHeath

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    JB was drafted the same year as Wheaton, thus making this his second year. We can agree to disagree, but Wheaton is and will be unequivocally better than JB.
     
  9. ThrowToHeath

    ThrowToHeath Well-Known Member

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    if my response caused drama for you, sorry. However, good luck handling some posters here, as they are much more direct.
     
  10. biggbunch68

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    I kno they came into the league the same year but JB remained on the practice squad. and wheaton played in games last year..that being sad sho me how he is UNEQUIVOCALLY better than JB because i dont see it.. so i guess we will just disagree
     
  11. Steel_Elvis

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    I think one of our many issues is that none of the WRs other than AB have demonstrated that they're ready for prime time. Moore is a proven vet, so I'm sure he'll be fine as he gets back up to speed post-injury, but he's really just a #3 slot guy and has limited red zone value. I think a lot of the negatives that people are seeing with Ben are really receiver issues. We've got talent there, but it's still in development. I think Moye was the odd man out among that group because Wheaton, Bryant, JB and the practice squad guys are just better and show more potential. I'm especially interested in seeing what Bryant's got. I watched a ton of tape on him in college, and his physical capability is close to that of Randy Moss. Obviously he's nowhere near Randy Moss in terms of ability level, but the potential is there for him to be a stud. One of the signs that I saw of that in the preseason was the number of DPIs that he drew. It was obvious that the DBs he went up against were so physically overmatched that they had to mug him whenever the ball came his way. He's a long, long way from being an every down WR. However, I think he has the potential to help us in the red zone right now. I never felt that way about Moye despite his height. He just didn't have the strength to overpower DBs, and despite his timed speed he didn't play fast IMO.
     
  12. SteelerGlenn

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    Edit: just read the last part of your post.
    Hang around for a while, this place is full of cool knowledgable fans.
    Sorry if I upset you, didn't mean to come off as harsh as I did.
    My apologies.
     
  13. lewisha

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    Yeah, I have been reading/ lurking this message board, and before that Diamond Daves, but just recently started posting myself. Take everything right now with a grain of salt and NOT personally, these be trying times in the kingdom. The Steelers have better players than They are playing like, better coaches than they are coaching like, and it has everyone on edge right now. Thank God the Rooney's still own the team, though.
     
  14. Aerosteel

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    Hey Steelgirl! Glad to have you on board. There are a number of us who wanted to see Moye with a hat, so you are not alone. And he did catch everything in the preseason last year and that's why he beat out some of the others. We are lousy in the redzone because we have short receivers and cutting Moye gives us one less tall option. I am also not a fan of Justin Brown - just don't see anything exceptional about the guy. I think Wheaton is a keeper, but we need a 3rd WR, ether DHB or Bryant. Moore is useless IMO.
     
  15. SteelerGlenn

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    Justin Brown 6'3" - 12 catches
    Derek Moye 6'5" - 2 catches
     
  16. gpguy

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    Boy the way people talk Moye would be the savior to the season. SMH
     
  17. JackAttack 5958

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    Maybe for the same reason we saw Chris Rainey as our primary RB in a game a couple of seasons back after Mendenhall and Dwyer fumbled. Tomlin likes to selectively make examples of players at times even to his own demise. You're right, Moye seemed to be getting a shot at playing time, dropped one ball and all of a sudden Tomlin banishes him to never never land. I'm not saying Moye was the permanent answer, but I thought he deserved more of a shot.

    And please stick around. Don't let Glenn get to you. He's pretty cantankerous at times but is actually a pretty nice guy once you get to know him. He's part of what we call around these parts "the rose colored glasses brigade". ;)
     
  18. Aerosteel

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    Your stats reinforce that Justin Brown is just not good. He has been targeted 21 times, caught 12 and only has 94 yards to show for it. That is awful for a WR - around 4.5 yds per target. For comparison, AB is 10 and Wheaton is about 7. He has done nothing to show he deserves a hat on gameday. I wasn't actually comparing Justin Brown and Moye, I was saying that we needed a 3rd WR and Justin Brown just isn't it. I was talking about Moye for redzone duties. Everyone keeps saying how bad we are in the redzone but the team doesn't do anything to change it. We need a tall package in the redzone, that's why I don't like them cutting Moye. They should line up with AB (just too good,) Moye, Bryant and Heath in the redzone. I guarantee our redzone performance would improve if they did that.
     
  19. Diamond

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    Maybe a new ownership wouldn't put up with this crap, a new owner would probably get a new GM and let him hire the coach he wants to build this team, the Rooney's are stuck in a time warp, this team is stale and needs an infusion of fresh inovative minds to fix it....
     
  20. blountforcetrauma

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    I was rooting for Moye last year as well but Haley's scheme is so heavily predicated on WRs being able to block and seal edges and things like that and I guess we just can't afford a roster spot for "one trick ponies". I mean I can think of another one trick pony we used to have and we didn't keep him either and he was lightyears ahead of Moye. I do want Ben to have a big red zone target but I would rather it be an all around player and not just a guy that comes in when we reach the 10 and then automatically turns our cards face up for the d. The Steelers are historically very good at not letting really good players walk and I will be really surprised if Moye goes on to be some worldbeater. Has anyone else even claimed him?
     
  21. blountforcetrauma

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    JB blocks. That's the reason he is getting so much playing time. His skills away from the ball are what is getting him on the field. I'm not a big fan of his receiving either but if he can block and help AB get in space then I am totally fine with that. Wheaton is really the guy that needs to step it up because we invested a pretty high pick in him and to whom much is given much is required.
     
  22. lewisha

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    I disagree. The day the Rooney's walk away from the Steelers will be a sad, sad day.
     
  23. SteelerGlenn

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    This may be the worst post I've ever read !
     
  24. SteelerGlenn

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    He's better than Moye and that was the point!
     
  25. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    OK... I'll volunteer to take over ownership of the team, and save the franchise. Anyone got a spare 2 billion I can borrow? I'll promise you free season tickets for life!
     

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