Top Five Positional Rankings: Post Pro Day Circuit Edition

Hello all and welcome to the long awaited and long edited edition of the Top Five Positional Rankings here!! Apologies to all those who were waiting as my PC sadly had to be sent in for servicing and therefore halted any abilities to continue. However, it is back and better than ever. Now, before we begin, much of what I said in the Pre Combine Edition still holds up here as there is not much change, so if you want to check out what was missed, use this link here to read on about some of the players. With that out of the way, let us begin!!


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Top Five By Position:



Quarterbacks:

1.) Malik Willis: Liberty University

2.) Matt Corral: University of Mississippi

3.) Sam Howell: University of North Carolina

4.) Desmond Ridder: University of Cincinnati

5.) Kenny Pickett: University of Pittsburgh



*** Sigh ***


So... this whole process of evaluation was a lot less joyful than I anticipated it to be. Again, I am not surprised. Even accounting for Malik Willis as the best one, none of them really strike me as someone I would go to bat for. Rather, Willis is the only one I would but not at the cost of starting him early for he is way too underdeveloped as it stands. For that matter, he is still, by far and away, the biggest boom/bust prospect to come out in some time. Some argue Robert Nkemdiche-esque but I am honestly not going to go that far; more so like Josh Allen (the QB) type. However, should he hit... that will essentially be no different than winning JACKPOT at the Pechanga Resort in California for he has every single intangible needed to contend with some of the heavyweights. Busting out means that any money you had and are still gambling at said casino not only be gone but possibly one's proverbial ticket home as well.


As the case before and, likely will be moving forward, Matt Corral is the second best QB in the class. A lightning release combined with some great maneuverability allows him to operate both in and out of structure here. Now, he does not have the special arm talent that Willis does sadly but he can operate off platform well enough to get the job done. Sam Howell is much of the same.. minus the fact that Howell's arm is a bit stronger than Corral's. However, unlike Corral, Howell's mobility is more suited towards pocket manipulation and RPO based designs in comparison to Corral's who's mobility can be used in a myriad of ways. That said though, Howell has the best deep ball accuracy in the class; his year to year improvement with his fundamentals no less. His biggest obstacle though will be to prove if he is more capable to speed up his reads and develop more in the RPO Offense.


The final two QBs.. I will not discuss much of. For Desmond Ridder.... he has more wins than any other QB in the class and has shown consistent improvement year over year. Beyond his leadership intangibles, mobility and dual threat capability.. not much else stands out. Yes, he has a powerful arm and can deliver it through multiple quadrants on the field... but not as accurate as one would hope. Short to intermediate routes are his best friend; West Coast Offense with some RPO incorporated being his best fit. Long story short, Ridder is a more athletic, bigger armed Kenny Pickett; what you see is what you get. Pickett I am not rehashing for he is what he is at this point. Nothing really stands out outside of the fact that he is the most Pro Ready among all QBs in the class. Take that for what you will.


Running Backs:

1.) Isaiah Spiller: Texas Agricultural and Mechanical University

2.) Kenneth Walker III: Michigan State University

3.) James Cook: University of Georgia

4.) Hassan Haskins: University of Michigan

5.) Kyren Williams: University of Notre Dame


Looking back at my notes, I have seen little to no reason to change any of what I said about the Running Backs in this class. This truly is, more or less of what the class is. I will say I was initially going to swap out Kyren Williams for Rachaad White of Arizona State but James Cook provides more despite his injury history and, therefore, is the better option.


Wide Receivers:

1.) Jameson Williams: University of Alabama

4.) Chris Olave: Ohio State University

3.) Drake London: University of Southern California

2.) Treylon Burks: University of Arkansas

5.) Garrett Wilson: Ohio State University


Jameson still is at the top here. ACL or not, he is still is, pound for pound, the best WR Prospect in the class. Not to the same level as JaMarr Chase even if he was not injured but very close all the same. Olave is the classes best route runner, London still possess the best combat catch ability, Burks is still the most violent and best chain moving Receiver and Garrett Wilson is arguably the most balanced and well rounded of the bunch. Jahan Dotson of Penn State was removed as Wilson's balance is just enough to place him above Dotson's occasional stone hands drops.


Tight Ends:

1.) Trey McBride: Colorado State University

2.) Greg Dulcich: University of California Berkeley

3.) Jeremy Ruckert: Ohio State University

4.) Cade Otton: University of Washington

5.) Isaiah Likely: Costal Carolina University




Major movement here. Jalen Wydermyer will be lucky to even be drafted and never mind ranked. Trey is still number one as he still possess the best overall quick strike capabilities of any TE in the class. Greg Dulcich is more a receiving option but the most balanced receiving based TE of any of his classmates. Jeremy Ruckert is not going to break open seams like McBride nor Dulcich but he just may end up as the best TE for he is the most well rounded and balanced TE. Cade is still the best blocking TE for that has not changed but his receiving abilities fall behind in comparison to the likes of Ruckert, Dulcich and McBride. Likely is more so an Offensive Weapon based TE so his projection will depend on where he goes; making it more difficult to grade him out than not but his usage will be among the most of his classmates for he offers multiple ways to win. That said, while he is a very good blocker, having him being used as such in repeated fashion is a major waste of his talents and undermines is overall abilities. In addition, while Otton is nowhere near the OPW (Offensive Personnel Weapon) that Likely is, Otton's superior polish and superior blocking abilities give him more opportunities for situational down based play calls or goal line based ones.


Offensive Tackles:

1.) Ikem Ekwonu: North Carolina University

2.) Charles Cross: Mississippi State University

3.) Evan Neal: University of Alabama

4.) Trevor Penning: Northern Iowa University

5.) Nicholas Petit-Frere: Ohio State University


No major changes here. Then again, I really did not expect much change to begin with regarding this class as a whole. Generally speaking, this class... actually wrote itself out for the entire 2021 CFB FBS I Season honestly. Ickey is still the crown jewel but Petit-Frere and Penning both have the potential to be the best from there class should all go well for them. Cross and Neal need to be in specific Offenses for them to further develop. However, when they do, they can become All Pro's very quickly.


Interior Offensive Line:

1.) Tyler Linderbaum: University of Iowa

2.) Zion Johnson: Boston College University

3.) Kenyon Green: Texas Agricultural and Mechanical University

4.) Jamaree Salyer: University of Georgia

5.) Sean Rhyan: University of California Berkeley


Linderbaum is still the best overall among all IOL and will likely remain so heading into the class. Johnson does get a one up from Green because Johnson is more athletic in space while possessing just enough power to get the job done overall. Green is still the most violent IOL among all of them while having the necessary demeanor to be an instant starting capable Guard in the game. Salyer and Rhyan's overviews are much of the same from the Pre Combine so not need to rehash here.


Interior Defensive Lineman:

1.) Jordan Davis: University of Georgia

2.) Logan Hall: University of Houston

3.) Devonte Wyatt: University of Georgia

4.) Phidarian Mathis: University of Alabama

5.) Travis Jones: University of Connecticut


Jordan Davis is still undisputed and will remain so. There is change however at the 2nd and 3rd overall spots. Now, Wyatt is the superior disruptor and pass rusher to Logan Hall but it is not by much. If anything, I would say that Hall's abilities in the run game close the gap more so than others are letting on. However, there is another aspect not being taken into account here; ceiling. Wyatt will be 24 compared only to 22 for Hall. While a two year difference should not be that big enough of a reason on its own, the fact of the matter is that the NFL is of two constants;


1.) An ever changing sport

&

2.) A young mans game



Wyatt is young yes but he is possibly maxed out in terms of what he can do. Due to the return of the big and bad IOL that have been coming out within the past two to three drafts, it is possible that Wyatt's role could become more limited due in part to his shortcomings in holding the POA and maintaining it. Hall has no such issues despite a lack of length. While he does have his woes in pass rushing due to his height, this can be alleviated through natural progression. For me, this makes Hall's projection more favorable than Wyatt's.


Phidarian Mathis is going to stay here despite also being 24 when he enters the league. The major reason why I do not have Mathis lower and swapped for players like Zachary Carter of Florida or even DeMarvin Leal of Texas A&M is that Mathis' versatility is what separates him from other players; even Wyatt included. However, while he will be effective at performing multiple roles, do not expect him to be a playmaking IDL either; steady eddie among his classmates though is versatility offers him more growth from the start. Travis Jones is a class one gapping, space eating monster of a tackle.


EDGE Rushers:

1.) Aidan Hutchinson: University of Michigan

2.) Kavon Thibodeaux: University of Oregon

3.) George Karlaftis: University of Purdue

4.) Jermaine Johnson: Florida State University

5.) David Ojabo: University of Michigan


Many will be shocked at the exclusion of Travon Walker. That said, allow me to be quite blunt; Walker is yet another classic case of "Freak Level" EDGE Players getting overhyped and overvalued. I have been stated in saying such many times and, will do so again; athleticism is important for an EDGE player but there is so much more to the position. Even accounting for his injury will will cost him dearly, Ojabo's potential and promise that he showcased even in his one major season of starting at Michigan has me more convinced that he will serve better as an EDGE Player than Walker will. If anything, I expect Walker to be used much of the same way in college; a 3-4 DE who can be moved around in sub package situations.


For the rest of the EDGE class? No change. Some would place Karlaftis above Kavon and the reasoning is very sound. However, Thibby's combination of talent, potential and athleticism make it difficult for me to do so despite Karl's motor being far superior. Motor alone is sadly not enough to overcome the combination of abilities. that Kavon possesses. However, I personally will not be surprised if George has a better career than Kavon does.


Linebackers:

1.) Nakobe Dean: University of Georgia

2.) Devin Lloyd: University of Utah

3.) Christian Harris: University of Alabama

4.) Darrian Beavers: University of Cincinnati

5.) Quay Walker: University of Georgia


Outside of Beavers and Harris being swapped out, no change here in all honesty. I do believe that Beavers has the best odds of outperforming his draft slot but I also cannot deny the fact that Christian Harris' abilities in pass coverage are simply too good to pass up on. Quay Walker here gets the nod over the likes of Damone Clark as while Clark's versatility are a bit greater than Walker's at the moment, Walker's better overall coverage capabilities and block deconstruction abilities give him the edge. In addition, Clark is sadly out due to an injury; Walker's rankings receiving an additional boost here.



Cornerbacks:


1.) Ahmad Sauce Gardner: University of Cincinnati

2.) Trent McDuffie: University of Washington

3.) Derek Stingley Jr.: Louisiana State University

4.) Andrew Booth Jr.: University of Clemson

5.) Roger McCreary: University of Auburn


Massive changes here.


To begin, while I did say that Derek Stingley Jr. possess some of the best overall Man Coverage and Overall Speed among corners in the class, the fact that he has had such a bumpy Sophomore and Junior Campaign does give me pause for concern. The ball skills are also tremendous... but so is his lack of discipline when tackling. Effort is not the issue here but fundamentals are. Add this together and this is why he has experienced a slide for me in my rankings. Now, Sauce Gardner and McDuffie together do not possess the same level of ball skills or overall speed that Stingley possess but both have comparable levels of Football IQ and Instincts; McDuffie's being the best of the three. Before I go more into McDuffie, I need to explain why Sauce is the new number one in the class.


Now, to start, McDuffie is the more well rounded of the two players. More instinctive to start, more versatile, more disciplined and more polished in the fundamentals; all of which close the gap considerably. So.. why is McDuffie not rated higher than Sauce? The answer? Sauce Gardner is better equipped to handle Number One WR's than McDuffie is due to his physical gifts but limited role. Yes, McDuffie has dealt with Number One WR's before but not within the same frequency as Sauce has. Truth be told, using McDuffie in such a way is limiting his overall effectiveness. While Sauce is a Number One WR eraser, McDuffie is a Mutli Role DB who's priorities are dependent on the Offensive Formation's best methods of attack are. Today's game is still a weapons based game and having someone like McDuffie should give him the edge. Again though, while having an array of weapons is a good way for Offenses to beat defenses, every Offense needs a Big Gun in the passing game to increase their respective teams odds of winning; namely found within the Wide Receiver position. So long as a team can take out that Big Gun, limiting or even neutralizing the other weapons will be a more favorable task than without. Therefore, while Sauce Gardner does have his warts in foot discipline and can get very grabby, he makes up for it by severely crippling an Offense's overall explosive capabilities.


Andrew Booth sadly has to be the fourth one as while his potential is higher than anyone in the class... how soon he can reach that potential is very much a fair and honest critique. Having that injury did not help him for it could likely cost him valuable time in terms of development but not derail his season all together. Roger stays at five despite other CBs like Alontae Taylor and Kaiir Elam having comparable cases. McCreay's abilities in man not just outside but also inside are simply too good to pass up on.


Safety:

1.) Kyle Hamilton: University of Notre Dame

2.) Jaquan Brisker: Penn State University

3.) Jalen Pitre: University of Baylor

4.) Daxton Hill: University of Michigan

5.) Lewis Cine: University of Georgia


No change here.... at all. Not much else to say other than what was said in the Pre Combine write up. I will say though that Brisker though could be the better fit at Strong Safety despite Cine possessing the most violence among all safeties. Not just that, there are considerable arguments to be made that Pitre and Brisker can be swapped as both have qualities that push them over one another; Pitre's instincts and playmaking habits are not just tops among Safeties but tops among all players in the class while Brisker's versatility permit him to be placed just about anywhere but do limit him somewhat into a true chess piece a la Pitre.



Hill is the best Single High Safety though... but with a catch. Not just a Safety.. could also be used in the slot or even better.. as an Outside Corner. I would not do such though so take that for what one will.





Conclusion:



That will do it all for the Post Pro Day Circuit TFBP Rankings!! I do believe there could be one more update though I am not too certain there should be at this point. For me, many of these positions are set in stone; some even being already set long before I began this journey. Some positional classes are like that but others do ebb and flow; needing constant change. However, at present, I personally see no major changes unless something major pops up. I will keep you all posted though in the meantime!!



One again, thank you all for reading! I hope you had fun and I hope you enjoyed!! Finalizing the Top 32 Big Board as we speak so hopefully by tomorrow morning it will be ready for all to read!! MASSIVE changes regarding that one so be on the lookout for it!!


Until next time, this is AskQuestionsLater saying so long and stay safe!!!

 

*** Side Note ***



Final Notes will be going up very soon!!!

 

Final Notes: Post Pro Day Circuit Edition


*** Pre Combine can be found here. ***


Quarterbacks:


Best Arm Talent: Malik Willis

Most Mobile: Malik Willis

Most Accurate: Kenny Pickett

Best Decision Making: Kenny Pickett:

Biggest Boom Potential: Malik Willis

Biggest Bust Potential: Malik Willis/Desmond Ridder

Most Pro Ready: Kenny Pickett

AQL Favorite: None




Running Backs:


Best Speed: Kenneth Walker III

Best Power: Hassan Haskins

Best Vision: James Cook

Best Blocking: Kyren Williams

Best Receiving: Kyren Williams

Biggest Boom Potential: Isaiah Spiller

Biggest Bust Potential: James Cook

Most Pro Ready: Kenneth Walker III

AQL Favorite: Hassan Haskins



Wide Receivers:


Best Speed: Jameson Williams

Best Route Running: Chris Olave

Best Hands: Treylon Burks

Best Slot: Garrett Wilson

Best Blocking: Treylon Burks

Most Versatile: Jameson Williams/Chris Olave

Biggest Boom Potential: Treylon Burks

Biggest Bust Potential: Drake London

Most Pro Ready: Jameson Williams

AQL Favorite: Chris Olave/Jameson Williams



Tight Ends:


Best Speed: Trey McBride

Best Power: Cade Otton

Best Receiving: Trey McBride/Isaiah Likely

Best Hands: Jeremy Ruckert

Best Blocking: Cade Otton

Most Versatile: Jeremy Ruckert/Trey McBride

Biggest Boom Potential: Jeremy Ruckert

Biggest Bust Potential: None

Most Pro Ready: Jeremy Ruckert

AQL Favorite: Jeremy Ruckert



Offensive Tackles:


Best Pass Blocking: Charles Cross

Best Run Blocking: Evan Neal

Best Zone Blocker: Ikem Ekwonu

Best Man Blocker: Evan Neal

Best Aggression: Trevor Penning

Best Technique: Ikem Ekwonu

Most Versatile: Evan Neal/Ikem Ekwonu

Biggest Boom Potential: Nicholas Petit-Frere

Biggest Bust Potential: Evan Neal

Most Pro Ready: Ikem Ekwonu

AQL Favorite: Trevor Penning



Interior Offensive Lineman:


Best Pass Blocking: Tyler Linderbaum

Best Run Blocking: Zion Johnson

Best Zone Blocker: Tyler Linderbaum/Zion Johnson

Best Man Blocker: Jamaree Salyer

Best Aggression: Kenyon Green

Best Technique: Tyler Linderbaum

Most Versatile: Kenyon Green

Biggest Boom Potential: Zion Johnson

Biggest Bust Potential: Sean Rhyan

Most Pro Ready: Tyler Linderbaum

AQL Favorite: Tyler Linderbaum



Interior Defensive Lineman:


Best Pass Rush: Devonte Wyatt

Best Run Stopping: Jordan Davis

Best Motor: Devonte Wyatt/Phidarian Mathis

Best Aggression: Jordan Davis

Best Technique: Devonte Wyatt/Phidarian Mathis

Best Power: Jordan Davis

Best Speed: DeVonte Wyatt

Best 3 Tech: Devonte Wyatt

Best 5 Tech: Logan Hall/Jordan Davis

Best Nose Tackle: Jordan Davis

Most Versatile: Devonte Wyatt

Biggest Boom Potential: Logan Hall

Biggest Bust Potential: None

Most Pro Ready: Phidarian Mathis/Devonte Wyatt

AQL Favorite: Jordan Davis




EDGE:


Best Pass Rush: Aidan Hutchinson

Best Run Stopping: George Karlaftis

Best Motor: Aidan Hutchinson/George Karlaftis

Best Aggression: George Karlaftis

Best Technique: George Karlaftis/Aidan Hutchinson

Best Speed: Kavon Thibodaux

Best Power: George Karlaftis

Best Stand Up EDGE: Kavon Thibodaux/Jermaine Johnson

Best HID (Hands In Dirt) EDGE: George Karlaftis/David Ojabo

Most Versatile: Aidan Hutchinson/Kavon Thibodaux

Biggest Boom Potential: Jermaine Johnson

Biggest Bust Potential: David Ojabo

Most Pro Ready: Aidan Hutchinson

AQL Favorite: George Karlaftis



Linebacker:


Best Pass Coverage: Christian Harris

Best Run Support: Darrian Beavers

Best Pass Rusher: Darrian Beavers/Nakobe Dean

Best Instincts: Nakobe Dean

Best Speed: Nakobe Dean

Best Power: Darrian Beavers

Best Technique: Nakobe Dean

Best Leadership: Darrian Beavers

Most Versatile: Devin Lloyd

Biggest Boom Potential: Quay Walker

Biggest Bust Potential: Devin Lloyd (Scheme Dependency)

Most Pro Ready: Nakobe Dean

AQL Favorite: Darrian Beavers



Cornerbacks:


Best Man Coverage: Derek Stingley Jr

Best Zone Coverage: Sauce Gardner

Best Run Support: Trent McDuffie

Best Blitzer: Trent McDuffie/Andrew Booth Jr

Best Speed: Derek Stingley Jr

Best COD (Change of Direction): Andrew Booth Jr

Best Instincts: Trent McDuffie

Best Technician: Trent McDuffie

Best Tackler: Andrew Booth/Trent McDuffie

Best Slot: Roger McCreary/Trent McDuffie

Most Versatile: Andrew Booth/Trent McDuffie

Biggest Boom Potential: Sauce Gardner

Biggest Bust Potential: Derek Stingley Jr

Most Pro Ready: Andrew Booth/Trent McDuffie

AQL Favorite: Trent McDuffie





Safety:


Best Man Coverage: Daxton Hill

Best Zone Coverage: Kyle Hamilton

Best Speed: Daxton Hill

Best Power: Kyle Hamilton

Best Tackler: JaQuon Brisker/Lewis Cine

Best COD: Jalen Pitre

Best Instincts: Jalen Pitre/Kyle Hamilton

Best Slot: Daxton Hill/Jalen Pitre

Best Single High: Daxton Hill

Best Pure Safety (FS or SS): JaQuon Brisker

Best Strong Safety: Lewis Cine

Most Versatile: Kyle Hamilton

Biggest Boom Potential: Jalen Pitre

Biggest Bust Potential: Daxton Hill

Most Pro Ready: Kyle Hamilton

AQL Favorite: Kyle Hamilton

 

@AskQuestionsLater
Though I don't agree on all of this....I will say I agree on most of Your writing here. Great write up, and thanks for the time, and information.

 

I wish I could understand all the love for Willis..... comes from a small school.... his game stats seem very underwhelming to me (4 games under 200 yards, 7 games from 200-299 yards, and 2 games barely over 300 yards), yes he's mobile, but a YPC of 4.5 isn't exactly a 2nd coming of Michael Vick who averages 7 YPC.....I don't want to rain on any parades, I just don't see him as a 1st round pick like all the so-called-experts are saying. I wish him well and don't consider myself a 'hater'..... I just can't see it here. That being said... I probably said the same about big Ben coming out of Miami OH.

But AQL, nice job and informative post.

 

A glaring omission at RB, no Breece Hall , I think Walker and Hall are the two best RBs in the draft. He ran a 4.4 at the combine, I think he goes early in the second round.

 

Pure running ability?! Easily one of the best but needs to be placed in an outside zone scheme. Receiving?! Potential is there but consistency is not there. Blocking?! Yikes.


Never mind the lack of consistency of blocking or receiving, he has 800 total touches in his career. This does bring up the fair critique of how long will he last in the league. Sure, Johnathan Taylor did indeed win the Rushing Title last season but how much longer can even that output be?!



Sadly, when entering the NFL, Running Backs shelf life is dependent on not just their injury history but also their total level of touches. This is also not accounting for the fact of the matter they have to have a multi role skillset that can operate in a number of ways to begin with.

 

He's still better than a RB like Kyren Williams, who ran a 4.65 at the combine yikes.

 

Agree to disagree good sir!

 

Do you have David Ojabo listed as being a large bust possibility because of his injury, or you're just not convinced he's a lock?

 

Neither.


Major reason why I have Ojabo as a bust and, have been had him there since the start is the overall lack of consistency in his game coupled with the shortcomings of the more finite concepts of run defense and pass rushing as a whole. For one, having only started just 20 college games is not enough to fine tune some of the shortcomings he has; doubly so since he just started playing the sport in High School. For two, he is more equipped to be able to win with speed but not with power. Does not sound all that bad on the surface but veteran Offensive Tackles know how to stop finesse based rushers clean in their tracks. To add insult to injury, his technique is okay versus the run but his leverage and power at the POA are still developing. Even including the injury.. his potential is arguably the highest among all EDGE players due to his unreal gifts and unreal latent abilities. However, banking too much on those abilities is exactly what I will expect someone to do; placing him in unwinnable and unfavorable situations as a result. That is where the bust potential lies; doing too much too soon. Relying on him as a starter out of the gates is asking for some serious trouble.





Keep in mind that he still is worth selecting in Round One in my opinion... just not nearly as high as others were projecting him way back in the year. I would still have him start but let him ease in some; situational to start off.

 

Ok I appreciate the info! I like that you always respond.

 

My pleasure!!

 

easily coachable... looks to have a lot of potential, I wld go on that rather than the glass is half empty appraoch and talk about running back shelf life yada yada

imagine Breece Hall backing up Najee? I agree, its a glaring omission

 

Breece Hall seems to be a good fit overall on paper. I do get the idea as well; a 4.4, big bodied back that has home run ability is enticing to think about. However, I just am not of the fit that he would be in the Matt Canada scheme; very odd as that may sound. Yes, the Steelers will employ Zone Blocking but not to the extent that would benefit Breece Hall in a meaningful way. Even if this were the case, the five listed above are either better blockers, better receiving options, possess better ball security, are a combination of the two or all three.



For that matter, if people here want a more refined form of "lightning" to Najee Harris' "thunder", Pierre Strong from South Dakota State should be an option worth investing some time in. While he is not the full 6'1, 210+ pound back that Hall is, Strong offers more for the Steelers as a whole. Much better ball security, better blocker, better receiving option, has experience returning punts and kicks and is also very fast himself; a 4.37 track burner.

 

r u kidding? the guy reminds me of Jim Brown, only smaller, impressive, I know we are not exactly in the market for a RB, this guy wld compete I believe w Najee, for real,

 

Nice write up. Always appreciated. But, do not agree. And you wont agree with my ranking. I will create separate top 5 thread.

 

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