"Mobile" vs. "Running" Quarterback

1 question.....With the current rules.....Where is the Qb most protected by those rules....In the pocket, or outside the pocket????
You know that answer.... no matter how anyone tries 2 twist the reply.
So .....with that said.
Why try 2 buck the system, and not work easily with the system.
Example: If You remember correctly. Our only loss 2 Lamar was set up by a hit 2 Him in the pocket. Not out of the pocket.

 

Not in the pocket. All the more reason to draft a pocket passer.

How many times have we seen a QB knocked out when sliding or running to the boundary?!

 

or ben when he could move around or brady. being able to take a step can make a huge difference in the pocket. pocket presence means a lot to a pocket passer type. just shuffling around can make guys miss. all 3 of those QB's you mentioned have missed time with injuries. jackson fumbles when he runs and a lot which has hurt that team, so other things to consider with a runner.

PS; i was watching the workouts at the sr. bowl and they were talking to colbert while they were watching 3 that he must be watching. the 3 were all taking turns together as a group. howell, zappe and willis. i think those are our front runners. howell looked the most fluid and in command of the drills that i saw. just his motions looked natural through them. we shall see.

 

Concussions add up and shorten careers. That was a bad injury for Allen.

I do agree that it is important to assess a QB's durability. Roethlisberger missed more time than just about any QB so I'm sure that is a consideration. Most of his injuries were inside the pocket.

I watch how QBs deal with contact. On that alone I knew Josh Rosen would be a bust- he could barely complete a college game. I'm less worried about Malik Willis than I was about a pocket passer like Rosen. You're not wrong that it should always be a consideration.

Willis is 6'1 215. He's a little more compact than Jackson or RGIII but about the same weight. Jackson had 3 years before injuries but now they are here.

If Malik Willis was 6'5 250 you could compare him to Newton and Allen (who have both been hurt) but he's not. He's the size of a corner not a linebacker. That's just not a good comparison. Think Vick, RGIII and Jackson and ask yourself if you think their injury histories were a problem.

 

With the cap and the "into harms way" could we see a devalue on the QB position?

Not like at RB but in the sense of we don't need to break the bank to keep him around.

Again, I being up how many SB winners have had a QB that has accounted for more than 12% of cap space in recent history( 15 years ).

It's a short list.
Mahomes didn't get in but burrow did?
I think even Matt Stafford in under that threshold at around 10%, so we'll see it again.

What's Rogers, Wilson's, etc cap hit %? I think a larger convo should be had on how money and thus talent gets delineated.

 

Some add freeze: flight, fight, freeze. We see this commonly with players struck over the head with their own helmet impacting their decision making.

 

Speaking of running QBs I heard Rodgers bought some land in Franklin TN is he getting ready to play for TN?

 

Concur, which was my initial point.

Even Michael Vick, the poster child (I guess) for running QBs getting hurt in his first 9 seasons missed 23 games but only two of them came from injuries on designed running plays. The rest came from passing plays.
https://www.inquirer.com/philly/sports/eagles/20120906_DIAGNOSING_VICK_S_INJURIES.html

People can point to Vick or RGIII or whoever and say "See. Running QB. Gets hurt." Of course, no one points Matt Stafford, Ben, or other non-mobile QBs who have missed time due to injury and says "See. Immobile QBs get hurt a lot."

Here's an article that looks into the actual numbers

https://www.fantasypoints.com/nfl/articles/season/2021/mobile-quarterbacks-and-injury-rates

 

Yeah Vick won 2 whole playoffs games His entire career. I guess We could blame it on the team. The same team that went 2 a SB before He was there, and after He left. Injuries are not the only concern of the Running Qb.
Matter of fact they are My least concern.

 

Probably his retirement spot after he plays a few years for a team on the East Coast.

 

The numbers say that a QB is almost 4x as likely to be hurt on a play when he scrambles (1 in 114) than stays in the pocket (1 in 419).

Those numbers don't make sense btw because every QB throws 500+ times a year so QBs would be injured far more regularly. Still, using your own source a QB is 4x as likely to be hurt on a play scrambling than a play staying in the pocket.

 

I would think Vrabel is done with Tannehill.

 

I agree with Howell 2 yr ago with 2 good RB and WR UNC was explosive . Since Howell has thrown a lot of picks I just hope he's not a turnover machine when under pressure

 

ugh he may come here.

 

Tannehill is guaranteed over 20 million for 2022, I think he will be the Titans starting QB next season.