Rooney Rule used as it was intended.

it also works both ways. How many times does lovie Smith have to be hired and fired? it's not just white guys that are involved in being revolving doors. They have experience so they are tried more often. A lot of these retreads have something an owner can view. A new guy that has never even been a coordinator at any level is a complete wild card. There is an old saying that the best players don't always make the best coaches.

 

That was an absolutely stupid thing to say!

That’s one thing I appreciate about Tomlin, he’s not going to make a ridiculous comment like this to embarrass the organization. As for the Rooney Rule, it worked in Tomlin’s case. I’m sure he knocked the socks off of the Rooneys when he interviewed with them. He’s an impressive individual and seems to always know the right thing to say. He’s not a good strategist or game manager, but he sure as heck is a motivating wordsmith.

I’ve evolved over time regarding the Rooney Rule. I support giving minority candidates an opportunity to interview when ordinarily they may not have been afforded that opportunity. But I have never and will never support affirmative action or quotas. Give everyone a fair shot and hire the most qualified individual for the position or the candidate that fits best with what you’re trying to do with your organization understanding that the most qualified or experienced may not be the best fit.

 

This. I read the other day that Black coaches Have a higher rate of rehire in the last 10 years. I believe everyone should get a chance.

 

Well said, but in tomlins case he was a coordinator before he got the job and was a position coach on a super bowl ring team.

 

That wasn't happening before the rule was enacted, black candidates couldn't even get interviews, the same retread white coaches would keep getting hired. Why is it so hard for you some of you guys to understand that?

 

Agreed.
That's why it's about changing the revolving door. However, there are a lot of the same coming through the door.

It's a chance for an outsider and history tells us that outsider is a minority.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_Rule

this will tell you all about it.

11 out of 30 minority coaches had winning records.

it is indeed affirmative action.

the rooney's want it to succeed and will most likely hire a minority over another qualified person because of it. why wouldn't they it is their name on it. not saying it's right wrong or indifferent just the way it is.

 

Because I don't look at it as a black and white issue. I look at it like it's an Italian, German, Spanish thing and not Black and White.

 

Should there be a rule that requires every team to bring in at least two white db's and two white running backs to training camp? Seems fair to me.

 

Why? Because he played here and people have an emotional attachment?

 

Hire a German, they know how to attack and conquer

 

opportunity? He's a friggin millionaire because he was given a chance. Oh how oppressed he's been. please.

 

that's not the part that bothers me smart guy. it has nothing to do with advancing anyone, thats the part you are missing. it's not equal that's the part you can't somehow comprehend. i have lived with and had to deal many times affirmative action and the consequences. it's absolutely not fair for everyone. it's certainly not fair to raise hope and call it equal just by granting or forcing an interview. don't be all high and mighty when it doesn't effect you. it has effected me in the past and this sure doesn't advance anyone.

 

Without the rule. Hines would have been looked at

 

If you think the Rooney rule is controversial I'm surprised that no one has ever mentioned former Steelers Kevin Henry and Najeh Davenport's lawsuit against the NFL for "race norming". They filed this lawsuit 11 months ago. Because of how racially charged their lawsuit is, I won't go into details but people should definitely check it out.

 

no it is not a quota and nobody here said it was. If you read what I posted from Wikipedia about it, it does say and is a form of affirmative action. As I said, these owners still mostly from the good old boys club now have to interview a minority and have no commitment to have to hire from that pool but it looks good for them without forcing them commit to anything.

 

You seem to have forgotten the era of recycled Rich Kotites and Jim Moras that inspired the rule

 

Yea but you seem to forget, that the same players get recycled all the time and no one says anything about the you have to interview so many other skin colors before you hire them to your team. Just a waste of time.