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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by francobettis, Jan 5, 2022.

  1. francobettis

    francobettis Well-Known Member

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    I don't understand how Adrian Klemm was so bad and Tomlin let him coach for almost the entire season. We had the best rushing game in a decade after Klemm is let go. If he is this bad, he would have been gone mid season at the latest. Or at least make some changes at mid season. I sometimes feel like Tomlin spends half of the regular season like the preseason: figuring out what works and what doesn't.
     
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  2. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    Did you watch the game or attend the game?
     
  3. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure Tomlin has ever fired a coach mid season or has ever fired a coach himself. I know coaches have been fired but it usually comes from somebody higher (Rooneys) and typically during the offseason.

    It's really not the way the organization does business.
     
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  4. Vox Ferrum

    Vox Ferrum Well-Known Member

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    Come on. Do you really think it was a one week change in OL coach that made the difference? It was the Browns showing up with no heart as much as anything. A different C certainly helped, maybe the scheme and game plan was more focused, but the motivation for Ben's last home game and the Browns playing half assed was as much a reason as some new asst coach taking over for a few practices.
     
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  5. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    My first thought as well.
     
  6. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if Klemm is a good, bad, ugly, or sad type of coach. I don't know him or play for him so can't say for sure. My measuring stick is if a coach (or anyone in any position at any place) leaves the organization, and isn't missed, and nobody can even tell he is missing, then I would say he wasn't worth what he was being paid. Why would MT keep him on the staff? I can only guess that the Rooney's wouldn't allow it or maybe MT doesn't have hire and fire authority, or worse, he doesn't have the stones to do it. Anyone's guess is as good as anyone else's. JMO>
     
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  7. thorn058

    thorn058 Well-Known Member

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    I honestly don't think anyone has ever been canned since Tomlin took over. They have "retired" some, didn't renew contracts on others, and some took other jobs, but I can't remember anymore being fired.
     
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  8. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    And if a head coach is unable to bring himself to do that, it's very troubling. But maybe it's not his call. Seemed to be the head coach's decision when Dan was running things but now who knows.
     
  9. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    The insane thing is his assistant was a coach of a Super Bowl appearing Atlanta Falcons team. Am I the only one who hearing that makes my head explode?
     
  10. thorn058

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    That why I asked about watching the game vs attending it. If you were at the game you wouldn't have caught the bit where they said most of Cleveland's defensive front not named Garrett and Clowney were out. So it wasn't exactly A squad vs A squad.
     
  11. DukeDukeDaDaDa

    DukeDukeDaDaDa Well-Known Member

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    Even still though Steelers line has gotten leveled by lesser talent. Garrett and Clowney aren't exactly slouches.
     
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  12. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of Clowney. That 15 yard shoe throw was killer.
     
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  13. CK 13

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    I just like the fact that we saw a center not getting driven back almost in the lap of Ben on almost every snap. A center who played physical. Green needs to sit this last game and next season go back to his natural position.

    The negative is the fact that all season Canada, Klemm and Tomlin saw that Green was struggling game after game and it took an injury to make a change. Now someone tell me that wasn't a coaching blunder.
     
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  14. Blast Furnace

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  15. mytake

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    This thought just came through my brain: Is Klemm Glemm's cousin? That could explain the o-line play.
     
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  16. S.T.D

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    I'd say a line with Clownboy ,and helmet smasher should be pretty good. :shrug: We've played this year with a lot less, and didn't make a difference with everyone complaining about it.:shrug:
     
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  17. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    that new coach has a lot more experience then the head offensive line coach. he wasn't new here. two backups that morgan had been working with played and that side of the line looked good. the side that started all year and were under klemms guidence looked bad again. we shall soon see if it makes a difference this week under morgan for a few more practices. morgan has plenty of experience in the nfl. klemm didn't. i talked about this in another thread. students teaching students. now we have a teacher teaching students. might be a deciding factor of if they keep morgan on for next year. :cool:
     
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  18. jeh1856

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    Seriously, you thinking changing an OL coach made a difference in one week :facepalm:
     
  19. AskQuestionsLater

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    *Side Note:


    Check out George Karlaftis. Not quite the same tier as Aidan Hutchinson or Kayvon Thibodeaux but he is very close. Among the three, I would not mind having him. Agree with the rest though.... rather all but Kayvon. :drinks:
     
  20. AskQuestionsLater

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    If Chris Morgan assists in ending the 2021 Steelers Season on a high note, I do not see why not. That said, I am with most that, even with Morgan being there since the beginning of the season, a one week turnaround is quite the jump for sure.
     
  21. SteelersGermany

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    First moment I thought it was a flag :facepalm:
     
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  22. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    klemm was the assistant last year and the head guy got fired and him promoted. maybe he was only teaching things the way klemm wanted. i talked about students teaching students with many on this staff. klemm learned mostly from sarrett. do you think klemm was going to let his assistant tell him how to do it?

    i saw a couple of things that i hadn't seen them do all year. the doubles were well played and then the peel off's to the second level were pretty clean. LeGlue also made his initial block and peeled back to help moore at the top of the arc many plays in the pass sets. that was designed and it wasn't happening before.

    our best run plays came from center to the left side. those 3 worked well together. if indeed morgan has been working with the backups most of the year, they are familiar with things he works on with them. klemm has the starters and they haven't looked good. two backups playing together and a night and day difference with technique looking polished and added too, makes me think he did make a difference in a week. it wasn't night and day differences but just some tweeks and it ran smoothly. at least a lot more smoothly then it has under klemm. now why? morgan has a lot more nfl experience then klemm ever had at teaching. just saying. :cool:
     
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  23. Steel Hog

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    I think that is one of MT's flaws. As the owners are obsessively loyal to their HC's, so too is MT to his players. He doesn't replace struggling players and keeps them in when change is needed. I think he recently said the same about the mistake of a draft pick punter. He said something ridiculous like staring failure in the face or some other nonsense. He won't make the tough personnel decisions and wants to be Coach Nice Guy. Remember all of the dropped passes last year and I think he sat one player down for a qtr or something insignificant to show he is a tough disciplinarian. What about Bush? Not saying what he is doing is good or bad, just an observation of his coaching style. JMO>

    Edit: As a side note, How Bout Them Tenguins?
     
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  24. S.T.D

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    Maybe. I do know they were blocking in a different scheme compared 2 what they showed most of the season. I believe there was one other game where they did this(if I remember correctly), but that's it for the year. We will see. Because if the ravens can't do anything.....they can still stuff the run.
     
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  25. thorn058

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    When Porter wasn't renewed and Butler took over coaching the position group as we as his DC duties we saw a pronounced improvement in the LB corp. At that time we discussed whether Porter was given a free reign by Tomlin to do what he wanted and the evidence that at one point Porter tried to divide the locker room into Offense vs Defense. the discussion was about how Butler could let that happen. I remember speculating that Butler could see the writing on the wall that Tomlin favored Porter more than Butler and so he never challenged Porter on not following his direction and rather did what he wanted to do. So now we have people asking if Morgan knew Klemm was out of his depth and yet still followed direction why wouldn't he say something. It might be he just followed Klemm's instructions even if he knew they were bad. Who knows
     
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