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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by slickster10, Oct 28, 2012.

  1. slickster10

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    Players that seem to made out of glass are: 1. Mendenhall, (this guy seems to always be hurt) 2. Trop P. (great player but handle with care) 3. Pouncy (even though he's playing now I'll give two more games until he's out again). I know many of you will disagree and maybe sad on my part for thinking everyone on our team should be as tough as Ben.
    -slick
     
  2. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    Mendy has missed an entire season. Troy has missed 17 games since 09. Pouncey is actually pretty reliable. He did miss the Super Bowl and a couple of games this year but for the most part I think he's usually out there. Maybe I'm wrong about that. Actually I think Lamarr is more fragile than Pouncey.
     
  3. SteelerGlenn

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    Did you see the list of Redskins that were hurt? or how about the Ravens? It's not just us. I do agree though that it does seem like some of our guys just can't get healthy for whatever reason.
     
  4. JackAttack 5958

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    No Woodley? His hammy's hurt AGAIN!
     
  5. shaner82

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    I will agree with you on Troy and Pouncey, but Mendy? That makes no sense.

    Since his rookie year, this injury is the only injury he has had that has caused him to miss any time. That's right, he has missed a grand total of 0 games due to injury if you exclude this injury, and exclude his rookie year. I exclude his rookie year because rookies often get injured as they are not used to the speed of the game and are not nearly as strong as the rest of the players in the league. I also exclude this injury because you said he's injured all the time, and I don't consider 1 injury being injured all the time.

    Sorry, the facts don't support what you're saying at all
     
  6. slickster10

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    But he's not hurt year after year. This year has been bad but he has mostly been in there through the years that he's been on the team.
     
  7. SteelerGlenn

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    Is there some type of report or study that proves this? I've never heard that before.
     
  8. shaner82

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    Woodley is hurt year after year. He's been in the league 6 years and has missed at least 1 game in 4 of those seasons. He missed 6 games last year and has so far not been 100% this year either.
     
  9. shaner82

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    You've never heard that rookies get hurt a lot, especially rookie RB's?

    Forget this years draft class since we're only 8 weeks into the season, but lets take last years draft class.

    Ryan Williams
    Mark Ingram
    Mikel Leshoure
    Shane Vereen
    Demarco Murray

    All rookie RB's and all injured and missing significant time. I believe those 5 were the top 5 RB's selected in the draft. Rookie RB's are notorious for getting injured.
     
  10. SteelerGlenn

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    I'd like to see something to back up this claim. Is there some kind of proof (not an opinion) that says a bigger pecentage of rookies are injured each year than veterans?
     
  11. shaner82

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    Anyway, I'm not arguing this with you nor do I really care to go through the stats. It's been well talked about by many experts, especially those who follow fantasy, don't believe it if you don't want, that's fine by me.

    Don't exclude his rookie year then, my point still stands, he's not injured year after year. He's had 2 injuries in his career, that's it. I wouldn't say that's injury prone for a RB
     
  12. SteelerGlenn

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    OK. I'll try and find it.
     
  13. Coastal Steeler

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    Mendy broke his color bone in the 1st game against the ravens and did not play anymore that year
     
  14. shaner82

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    Yes, I mentioned that. He's had 2 injures in his career, that's it. Everything he's facing now is a direct result of his ACL injury.
     
  15. Coastal Steeler

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    I assume the he and his we are talking about is mendy?
     
  16. Coastal Steeler

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    By the by
    I posted a few weeks ago these two Troy and Mendy were a couple of china dolls
     
  17. SteelerGlenn

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    He has an Achilles injury right now, not sure how that's a direct result of his ACL injury?
     
  18. bigsteelerfaninky

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    don't know about all that being true that the OP wrote but he is probably just frustrated at all the injuries because he knows we are much better with those players than without them.
     
  19. Busman

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    And Woodley?
     
  20. SteelinOhio

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    I pretty much feel the same way as slickster, but I'll say that I wouldn't call Troy a china doll or say he's made of glass. I believe that it's his play style that has caused him to get to this point. He's basically been Superman with his flying, diving, and rolling tackles, not to mention some of his amazing diving interceptions. He's held up pretty well considering how aggressive he is, but the years of playing that way are catching up to him.
     
  21. Rush2seven

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    So when are you going to suit up? I wouldn't survive one play. I agree with your sentiment, but I reject your hypothesis and replace it with a new hypothesis - Mendy probably came back too early. Troy still lingering from his acrobatic move on the Interception -touchdown against the Bengals in 2010. Pouncey has to go against the opposing team and watch out for his own lineman (usually Gilbert) rolling up on him. Lamar hasn't healed that hammy yet. I don't think these are weak players, as you infer with your made of glass analogy, but these are simply players with lingering injuries.
     
  22. KnoxVegasSteel

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    Quite frankly, I don't think the facts support what you are saying. Not sure why you would exclude his rookie year in the injury debate as it is relevant to the discussion about his durability. And his current injury isn't related to the ACL, it is an achilles injury. So, he has had 3 different injuries causing him to miss games in 3 out of his 5 seasons.

    Here are the facts:
    Mendenhall is in his 5th season with the Steelers and has only played 2 complete seasons (09 and 10).
    2008 - missed 15 games including 3 postseason, one being the SB
    2011 - missed 2 games including 1 postseason
    2012 - missed 5 games so far through 7 games played

    I think the game logs add up to Mendenhall's durability being brought into question which is what this thread was all about. To assert otherwise seems a bit foolish.
     
  23. lovembig

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    wait a minute. you cant just throw out his rookie year and last year and this years injuries. they all count. should we also throw out all his stats too?
     
  24. Coastal Steeler

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    No mater what the injury. He (Mendy) is still on the bench. Tommy Maddox thought his job was safe when Ben came in at B-MO. When Maddox was ready to come in, Cowher said here is your clipboard now watch Ben
     
  25. shaner82

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    Okay, I still don't think 2 injuries in his career means he's made of glass. He plays a position where injuries are very common, and he's had 2 injuries. I have no doubt his current injury is related to his ACL. When you come back early from things like that, you risk reinjuring it as well as injuring other parts of your body
     

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