TJ Holdout?

And????. I don't believe either of them got SBs

 

Sign him to whatever he wants, then trade him. Who cares? By the time this team is good enough to contend for a championship again, the Steelers will be looking for a way to get out from under his contract. He's a great player, but I don't think he's a HoF'er. He may very well start to deteriorate within the next couple of years. Use his value to other teams to stock draft picks.

 

Ditto, about half of which were labor bargaining unit agreements.

 

The Steelers would lose the guaranteed money they paid in that case. And you'd want to make the cap number not too crazy high to be tradable. Bottom line he has one year remaining in his contract. If he doesn't come back to play it this season, then you trade him. I guarantee teams would be salivating for that to happen.

 

Filliponi is a weasel. That show is only decent if they have a quality guest. I don't mind Starkey and Cook, or Paul Zeise. I think some of these newer guys aggravate guys like Cook and Ed Bouchette because they love to posit ridiculous hypothetical situations and Bouchette, especially thinks those types of discussions are a waste of time. I concur.

 

You know what I meant.
We'll see.
Sorry I got a typo

 

Paul Zeise I find myself agreeing with a lot. Poni is just for shock value, like Tim Benz.

 

Yeah, I always forget about dead cap. But, I agree, Duke. Either way, I wouldn't bat an eye if they traded him. I generally trust how the Steelers handle the big contracts. If he isn't happy and refuses to play, then trade his a$$. It's understood that many of the modern athletes could care less about loyalty, so why should the Steelers? After all, business is business.

 

I gotta say, the Rooney's are lucky to be in a sport with a salary cap. If this league was wide open like the MLB, they'd be in trouble.

 

And that’s the way it is

- Walter Cronkite

 

And that’s why the nfl is a strong as it is.

 

Bouchette has been covering the Steelers since 1985, probably 10 years before Starkey and Zeise even started their sportswriting careers, so there are going to be generational differences.

 

I do often wonder if they realize most players are looking for pay day these days. They really don't care about team tradition as it's ancient history to them. We like to romanticize the glory days of the team as fans, but these guys don't care about that.

 

I guess it's almost time 2 burn another jersey. 1st Woodson, and I guess now Watt.

 

Well idk if that's the reason. The sport is insanely popular in this country so that helps more then anything.

 

The tag is good for the NFL as a whole. That is why both sides agreed to it.

This year the tag affected .65% of the players. It did not affect 99.35%.

The 99.35% of the players aren’t going to fight for the top .65%.

The tag will be included in the next contract and won’t even remotely be an issue.

 

It’s not “the” reason, but it is the major reason. It makes more teams competitive. And that is why it is popular. If baseball had a similar model as football, it would be much more popular. The big market owners in baseball don’t care. Years ago, the big market football owners agreed for the good of the league to share fairly. Hockey can’t quit stomping on their dicks with their skates.

 

I had 2 comment...because that deserved a Hilarious, and a Winner. We only get 2 pick one.

 

And neither do the modern fans. But, I get it. They weren't around for the Super Steelers. Most of the younger folks don't know an NFL without a cap and free agency. They only know what they have experienced first hand. I don't like how the modern athlete could care less about their teams traditions, but it is what it is. I still enjoy the games, but my loyalty to specific players only goes as far as their loyalty to the Steelers. Once their gone, I could really care less.

 

Hockey had to get a cap. They were on the verge of contracting roughly half of their teams. Hockey will always be a niche sport because they want toughness, grit and hustle to be as important, if not more so, than skill and speed. Hockey junkies like me put up with it. Fringe fans can't and don't and that is why hockey will always remain behind the NFL, MLB, NBA and NCCA football and basketball.

 

Realistically speaking, if the NFL PA fought hard for fully guaranteed contracts like both the MLB, NHL and NBA players currently enjoy, this is a non issue as a whole. However, given the fact that the NFL PA would rather fight itself rather than stand united is what is going to continue situations like these to proliferate for the foreseeable future. Until the NFL PA can get out of its own way, expect what @jeh1856 to be the normal......




.... which is looking like it is to stay!!!

 

A lot of caring going on there.

 

Pay the man. It will only cost you more at the end of the season and create bad feelings…potentially enough to lose the best defensive player we have. Losing Bud hurt, and without TJ we will have zero pressure on the QB making a solid defensive backfield look average.

 

Who cares

 

If it goes past Thursday, he'll either be traded or leave in free agency.