Should the Steelers trade a third round pick for Sam Darnold?

Leonard and Chubbs were both projected to go ahead of Edmunds, which is more relevant to the choice made by the Steelers. It makes no sense to say that Chubbs wasn't an option. He was an option discussed quite a bit on this board at the time. If he wasn't an option, Edmunds sure as hell shouldn't have been.

The comparison of Dupree to Edmunds doesn't hold up, either. Dupree was projected as a first-round pick, not a late second or early third like Edmunds. Nobody blinked an eye at Dupree being taken that high. Plenty commented that Edmunds was a massive reach at the time.

 

I agree with both of you. I know that makes no sense, but both are making good points.
Though I Also don't think T. Edmunds is very good, but hope he is better than what I think, and gets even better.
I think some people think when I don't think a player is good, I want 2 see them fail. That's the farthest from the truth.
I want all Steelers players 2 thrive. No matter what I thought about them before the draft, after the draft , or their previous years.
I'm a Steelers fan Damn it. Not a players fan. Though I can be . If they've done good for, and by the Steelers.

 

I'm not implying anything of the sort. I'm just saying those numbers are incomplete.

I have acknowledged that he had a decent season, but one that is being vastly overrated by some people on this board. He made three big plays, did a solid job tackling, and he is still a liability when the ball is in the air. The argument that he is among the best safeties in the league, which has been floated on this board, is ridiculous.

 

Chubb only went seven picks after Edmunds. There were rankings that had him in the first round. Every ranking had him ahead of Edmunds. The same is true of Leonard, who went right after Chubb. They were both realistic options for the Steelers in the first round. The Steelers made a bad choice. I'm not sure why it is so difficult for people to admit as much.

 

I know you didn't write that about Edmunds, but it is part of the overall discussion. People are trying to prop him up as being better than he is to justify a bad pick.

Chubbs was listed as a potential first-rounder by some, but not all. I even saw mock drafts at the time that had the Steelers taking him in the first. Every ranking out there had him ahead of Edmunds. Most, if not all, had Leonard ahead of Edmunds.

The Steelers made the mistake of taking Edmunds over both Chubb and Leonard in 2018, the draft after Shazier's injury. Inside linebacker was every bit the need going into that draft as safety and Leonard was the more highly-regarded prospect. The Steelers passed on an All-Pro linebacker for a mediocre safety.

 

Leonard was more highly sought after than Edmunds. That isn't hindsight. That is information that was available at the time.

Were the Steelers foolish to draft Highsmith last season after they had just put the franchise tag on Bud Dupree?

 

I decided to join you. I brought popcorn.

 

Very much appreciated!!


Consuming spirits or beer is always nice but it is best done with others you can socialize with!

 

So you can use a third-round pick on a position where you just franchised the player, but not a first? Okay. That is reasonable.

The primary things that have to go into the board would be the quality of the players and the team's needs. Leonard was and is a better player. His position, like that of Edmunds, was a huge need. Terrible play at inside linebacker after the loss of Shazier was one of the things that ruined the Steelers in 2017, and Shazier wasn't coming back.

 

Nobody was going to match Shazier's athleticism, but Leonard absolutely could have done what they are asking of Bush now. He was passed on because teams like the Steelers made mistakes. Safety was not a greater need than inside linebacker and Edmund was a player with an inferior ranking.

 

Speaking of the 2018 draft; If Shazier was not behind the curtain would the Steelers of traded back in the draft?

Robbing all of Steeler nation of that great moment when Shazier walked on stage.

Although I do not know if the Steelers ever traded the 1st round away to go backwards in the Draft? Hoping the Steelers may have that option this year if both RBs are still available at #24, moving back in the 1st and up in the second to land a RB/C combo with their 1st and 2nd round picks. (Harris/Humphrey Combo)

 

No on Darnold, there is much better talent out there for the money... Darnold is not a true contender more a pretender...

 

Bump. Going into last night, Darnold was PFF's highest graded QB from the 2018 draft, and he didn't appear to do anything to hurt that. He was making all the throws over the middle that Ben is currently afraid to make.

Small sample size, but it appears the Sam Darnold reclamation project is off to a good start, while the Steelers ride a broken down old pony out to pasture.

 

Darnold was firing some bullets last night. Kinda of surprised me with his arm strength. A lot of passes were in the 10 to 20 yard range into the middle of the field. Something I havent seen from Ben or Mason do lately.

 

Arm strength has never been the problem with Darnold. That said, let's see him do this against a good opponent.

 

I think the change of market and not having to be "the one" has done wonders for him.

 

Panthers are 3-0 with a stifling defense and Darnold with a 99 QB rating.

Panthers are what the Steelers WANTED to be, but cant. lol

 

I swear we just saw this happen with Ryan Tannehill.