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Rank the collapses of the Mike Tomlin era

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Maddog78, Jan 11, 2021.

  1. Mike T

    Mike T Well-Known Member

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    this is the same philosophy that Jason Garrett had with the Cowboys (I live in Dallas). Another terrible coach that underperformed constantly and kept his job to long because ownership wouldn’t do what was needed.

    when a coach relies solely on the plan being line up and beat your man then that coach lacks creativity. The best coaches study their opponent’s and exploit any weakness they can find. Tomlin either can’t or is lazy and won’t. Either way it’s not good.
     
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  2. biggbunch68

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    I remember a cetain someone said " it is what it is" 7-8 months ago, and the world went nuts, now it seems everyone is saying it , and the world is like *meh*....... lol
     
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  3. biggbunch68

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    So your in the loop?
     
  4. steel_ben7

    steel_ben7 Well-Known Member

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    Why do they have to fire him and hire another black coach based on what? Because it’s the politically correct thing to do. I want the best coach out there period and his skin color doesn’t or shouldn’t have a damn thing to do with who Art Rooney hires moving forward.
     
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  5. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    I wish he answered the question about who was calling the Defense.
     
  6. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    Fix the Offense and keep the Defense healthy.
     
  7. Rollers

    Rollers Well-Known Member

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    Rooney is desperately concerned with being viewed as politically correct. You have to realize this. His father was given an ambassadorship to Ireland for supporting President Obama. It will not change until someone else owns the Steelers. I'm saying there are good choices out there right now to hire a minority coach. Make the move if you think Tomlin is the issue. If they don't think Tomlin is the issue there will be no moves made
     
  8. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    2020 is probably the worst... the team was 11-0 and totally imploded with the exception of the 2nd half vs. Colts and Rudolph Browns game.
    9-7 in 2009 was also an epic collapse with a Super Bowl champion roster.... 2nd worst.
    Then... Tebow debacle
    Jacksonville divisional round 2017
     
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  9. Steelers36

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  10. Steelers36

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    Why not put the blame on the head coach?????? That's where it should be! I always knew when Ben was losing it Tomlin, the Rooney rule hire, should be out also! It exposed the fact the team won in spite of his lack of coaching skills. You can see how UNPREPARED this team was and they always play down to their opponents. Get us a head coach that is the best person for the job, not just because of the color of their skin!
     
  11. Steelers36

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    Why not put the blame on the head coach?????? That's where it should be! I always knew when Ben was losing it Tomlin, the Rooney rule hire, should be out also! It exposed the fact the team won in spite of his lack of coaching skills. You can see how UNPREPARED this team was and they always play down to their opponents. Get us a head coach that is the best person for the job, not just because of the color of their skin!
     
  12. BigBensBigBong

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    Dang, that list makes us look bad and I can`t remember all the details of each season so errors/revision likely needed.

    I`ll take a shot at it:

    2020: The year we find out Ben is done. So sad. It`s a long time coming, so I rank FIFTH on this list.
    2019: Garbage season and we were lucky to be in contention without Ben. I rank this one EIGTH on this list.
    2018: True collapse if I remember correctly. Didn`t Ben have a good year? I rank FOURTH on this list.
    2017: I draw a blank here. It must have been forgettable, LOL. By default I rank SIXTH on this list.
    2012: That`s a collapse. I rank SECOND on this list.
    2011: Yes embarrassing, but we were going nowhere that year and not very good. I rank this SEVENTH on this list.
    2009: I also blanked this one out. Call it Super Bowl hangover, not hungry collapse. I rank this THIRD on this list.
    2007: That`s a collapse. I rank FIRST on this list.

    In general I ranked earlier years higher because Ben was in his prime and more likely (opportunity lost) to win Super Bowls.
     
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  13. Ytownsteeler

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    Any year we had the big three was bad coaching for not making the afc championship. But the year we did was a joke. Tomlin looked like a pop Warner coach against belichick
     
  14. Ytownsteeler

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    I am not a tomlin fan and never have been. His teams never have enough discipline to win if any adversity come their way. He rode the coattails of cowherd defense to his first title and the. Had a magical year in 2019 and the team blew a easily won super bowl. Team has been a joke since. Defense was comically bad for three out of the last five years. No confidence team will be any good for next three season salary cap jail.
     
  15. Ray D

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    Chuck Noll was "The Emperor."

    Coach Cowher was "The Chin," or "Cowher Power."

    Mike Tomlin is "Coach Collapse." Even his Superbowl win we almost blew because the secondary suddenly looked pedestrian against a barely above .500 team.
     
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  16. bigbenhotness

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    Tomlin is an excellent wordsmith. At least Cowher showed anger and frustration. Yeah he was no better in the playoffs but if I had to guess he would’ve won 1 more with Ben if he stuck around.
     
  17. Ray D

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    No better in the playoffs?

    We lost a few AFCCGs, but we WENT to those AFFCGs! And with subpar QBs to boot!
     
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  18. Maddog78

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    I'd sure like to know who is responsible for putting a backup LB on their #1 WR over and over and over again.

    The football IQ on this coaching staff is abysmal.
     
  19. bigbenhotness

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    Yeah was just thinking that when I typed it. Definitely did more with less imo. Defense also was legit
     
  20. Maddog78

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    With substandard QBs, to boot.

    Cowher was 12-9 in the playoffs over 15 seasons, Tomlin 8-8 over 15 seasons.
     
  21. Jammasterc

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    I enjoyed watching Watt drop back into coverage.

    Throw that Steeler Defense playbook call out finally!
     
  22. Da Stellars

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    I've been thinking ... Tomlin is a protege of Dungy.

    Tomlin has turned us into the Colts of the Manning era, who were renowned for epic collapses.

    Our team is built in a similar way when you think about it. A lot more finesse on offense, and a penetrating front seven who really can't stuff the run.
     
  23. STEELWARRIOR

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    Stephen A and Ryan Clark said it best!! The Steelers main problem is no one is scared to play them!! They have no identity anymore Defense and Offense are soft and get pushed around!!! Not the Bully anymore!!! Period.
     
  24. hmmmmm

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    No one has ever done less with more than Mike Tomlin. They are all pathetic. I suppose my all time would be unleash hell. Don't just look at the record. Go back and look at the record of the teams they lost to down the stretch. We also didn't have injuries to blame. However a lot of times the injuries are Tomlin's fault. Example "we are going to run the wheels off of him". Good job Tomlin because many seasons we lost our work horse for the playoffs because you ran the wheels off of him. he refused to give a backup RB a few touches a game so the #2 guy could stay connected to the team and #1 RB could stay healthy. Instead he would insult someone like Blount then cut Blount so he could make the #1 seed Patriots stronger.
     
  25. HeinzMustard

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    Cowher has a much better playoff record than Tomlin. Tomlin is down to .500 with this loss to the Browns. Pretty sure Cowher is above .500.
     
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