Tomlin

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is getting tired of Tomlin's apparent lack of emotion on the sideline during games. His post game comments don't help. It's almost as he doesn't care one way or another. I can understand him being a different personality than Cowher but show some fire! Get angry! I see every, and I mean every other NFL coach on the sidelines showing it. Maybe this trickles down to the players too. Something obviously has to be done. Great teams, s**t even good teams do not lose to the Titans. I guess when it all comes down to it this years Steelers are not a good team. Shame, cause Ben is not getting any younger.

 

I don't put a lot of stock in a HC showing emotion. Chuck Noll didn't. Tom Landry didn't. Tony Dungy didn't. On the flip side, no coach was more emotional than Mike Ditka, and that didn't usually work out so well for him.

That said...

I agree with what seems to be overall point: that something's amiss with Tomlin. The Steelers losing to the Titans is yet another example of the team seeming unprepared to play. This has been a Tomlin M.O. since his first season. Remember the bad losses to the Broncos and Jets in that first season? Well, that was a preview of things to come. Under Tomlin, this team routinely loses (or simply looks lost) against lesser opponents, especially on the road.

 

This is spot on, I like Tomlin however this is a trend year in and year out. We cannot simply handle lesser talented teams. It's ether a close win or a loss. This team has to much talent to loose to these type of teams.

 

At the beginning of the game the camera caught Tomlin and Polamalu giggling together on the sidelines before the kickoff. I knew at that moment that the game was going to be a nailbiter for some reason or another. It just displayed a total lack of concentration on the competitor to me. My immediate thought was that Troy was jokingly saying c'mon coach put me in and the Tomlin reaction of no, sit out, we can win this one without you again. Just my thoughts.

 

WTF!!!!!!!!!!! to me his one glaring mistake is keeping lebeau when we should have kept ray horton who is now running pittsburgh west. even gay doesnt look as bad

 

Plus we blow leads in the fourth quarter and Tomlin's ridiculous decision to kick a 54 yard FG instead of punt the ball and play for OT, is a big reason why....

 

Tomlin is a Politician he says what he thinks people want to hear or lack thereof and then just like people in power does not back anything up. He does not hold anyone responsible because he does not hold himself responsible. I am tired of him acting like one of the player’s friends and not a head coach. You don’t see Bellacheat laughing it up with his player even when they are up 40+. Just not a good coach he won with others players not his, his have done nothing but collapse. Heck without Ben this team would be awful we would be losing 10-12 a year without #7 he is the only reason we have a shot. I think Tomlins time here is up he needs to go.

 

I don't kick that field goal or punt the ball. I put the ball in our best player's hands...Big Ben and let him make the play. If he doesn't oh well they still get the good field position. If we punt I feel that with 3 time outs they still drive the field on this joke of a defense.

 

Tomlin is an average NFL head coach at best right now. Maybe even below average. His teams are constantly unprepared. His clock management and decision making ability are both terrible.
I don't see him being replaced anytime soon but I would like to see better results. Losing to the Titans when every other team crushes them this year is bad. Really, Really bad.

 

when i said i saw people smiling on the sideline that was the kind of things i meant , seems there is no one in command and discipline overall , an anarky everywhere , tomlin espression has two sides one is laughing and the other one is fearing something , i don't like both of them , this team is clearly the result of lack of power in command

 

anarky? You mean "anarchy?" I'm not posting to correct you...I like your spelling better. LOL. How can we officially change that in the English lexicon?

 

Maybe he meant malarkey! At least thats how our VP Biden would put it.

 

yes anarcky , me too i prefer with only the k , sounds stronger :-D

 

I honestly do not see how anyone could defend MT. This team is softer than a loaf of bread. ZERO leadership. Seeing MT chest bump Ike in the middle of one of the worst games I have ever seen an NFL cornerback play tells me all I need to know. Tomlin is a dude that tries to act like one of the guys cuz he was never good enough to get there himself. The Rooneys will keep him for another 15 yrs cuz that's what they do, but there can be no doubt that he just isn't an X's and O's guy. He has perfected coach speak and that is all. He should be an NFL PR guy, not a head coach.

 

I agree with the point about emotion.

Im starting to wonder about the lack of discipline and the head scratching decision to run on 2nd down at the end of the game last night.

They seemed to relax once they got to the Tennessee 35 and the run up the middle was just a stupid stupid call. To me it was saying that they were satisfied that they were close enough even though they were beyond Suisham's career long. Ben threw them to that point and they needed to keep the ball in his hands.

 

In a way you are right, but that the way you're implying. I think the problem with Tomlin is that since day one, he didn't pick his own guys, oc and dc. I'm not sure what agreement was made when he got the job about arians and lebeau but something was said and they both remained on, which is pretty unheard of when a brand new coach comes in. Granted lebeaus defense have been good until the last 2 seasons but im sure tomlin doesn't agree with certain things, but probably doesn't say anything because of the respect he has for lebeau and how much the organization loves him.

I belive Tomlin with the opportunity to become the next coach of the steelers agreed to whatever the rooneys wanted instead of demanding he pick his own staff.

 

ohhhhhhhhhhh :o i'msaying this from years , it's so evident , the player expecially ben troy and harrison carried the team during tomlin' s years , and he never developed , seems like his the twelve guy sitting on the bench , i think the rooney knows it too (he is not blind) he already came in in the ba firing , i don't think he will let tomlin keep doing this job if doesn't change

 

Tomlin won with the team cowher built, he still has 5 cowher players starting on defense who are at the end of their career and dont have those young legs they once had, tomlin either rebuilds this team or he is going to eat a lot of losses, even on offense if it wasnt for two cowher players ben and heath it would be in a bigger shambles than it already is.....

 

I've tried to stand behind Tomlin, if for no other reason than home-town pride of him being from the area. That said, the man has no heart, no fire. I didn't want to admit it before, though last year I was inclined to silently believe it, but this year it seems obvious. The man just doesn't seem to care.

 

i only recall 2 instances where he has taken command of a situation and done something about it. I think it was his first yr where he told casey he couldn't practice in training camp until he lost a certain amount of weight and the other is when he benched mendenhall for not preparing right during the week of practice leading up to a bengal game.

 

deljcz wrote this on another forum , i found it interesting

It's about time someone takes a hard look at why this guy is our strength and conditioning coach.

Why was the previous coach (Chet Fuhrman) fired when Tomlin came in even though he had a very successful 16-year stint with the club and was only 55 years old? This despite the fact most of the assistant strength and conditioning coaches were retained?

Giemont was also FIRED from his previous post in Tampa Bay by Jon Gruden (not released in association with a coaching change).

I'm sorry, but I have to question this coaching hire by Tomlin. It obviously looks buddy-buddy because both worked together in 2004-2005 but Giemont hasn't done anything with players to make me think we are a better conditioned team as compared to the Cowher era.

Is Woodley better conditioned than he was as a 2nd year pro? What about Timmons? Heyward, Hood?

We look stronger, but are we better suited for NFL football? I don't think so.

This is not my area of expertise in any stretch of the imagination, but the results kind of speak for themselves, right?

 

I agree with this, except for the part where he remains the coach for 15 years. I've been saying for years now that he's well on his way to getting fired. I think he'll get canned within 5 years, and that's only because the Rooney's do not fire head coaches. Any other team and I think he'd be thrown out on his ass after this year, because what we witnessed last night is a sign of what's to come. We are a terrible football team and it starts with the head coach.

 

is not only injuries but we look out of shape , expecially on oline and lbs , except pouncey all others are overweight and slow , did you see gilbert he was good last year now he added 20 pounds and is a disaster , good team oline are much more athletic

 

if we keep playing like this he will be gone in 2 years at maximum