NFL and TV conspiracy against Steelers

Joshua Cribbs gets creamed in the head last night with a helmet to helmet shot. ESPN did not even show it in their highlights of the game. The NFL website puts up the wrong video. When Harrison hit him in the head it was all the talk and videos all over both of those networks. Even Mudys hit was on both. It's like they want to make it seem that the Steelers are the only team to ever hit someone in the head. Conspiracy

 

JFK and what happened to Jimmy Hoffa are maybe conspiracy. Stop the whole conspiracy against the Steelers, Sportscenter (ESPN) showed that hit a dozen times this morning. Trent Dilfer even talked about that it will be a fine for sure.

 

Oh my God!

 

there is no helmet to helmet on a runner and i dont think espn shows just big hits that dont draw flags anymore. They got rid of jacked up when goodell started pushing safety

 

I've never felt there was a conspiracy, but I often feel like the Steelers get mentioned a whole lot less in the football news than other teams. That said, I think it's more about the fact that we're so consistent (be it good or bad) that there isn't anything new to talk about. No real media hype to report on, unlike the circuses that seem to surround the teams that do make the news a lot.

 

Yet once again when did Steeler fans become such freaking kittens? You/ the Steelers are not freaking victims!

 

This, but even if it was helmet to helmet it would be perfectly legal as Cribbs was a runner at the time. I've also seen the replay of that hit many times so far this morning.

Some of you guys have to stop with the victim card, it's down right ridiculous. We are one of the most cherished teams in the league, the Rooney's are among the most respected owners in the league. The league has nothing against us. I have no doubt Goodell hates Harrison on a personal level, but I do not believe for one second it extends down to the refs. Goodell wouldn't dare tell the refs to target certain players or he would risk destroying the integrity of the game. The owners would dump him in a second if it ever came out that he was having the refs make unfair calls against certain teams/players.

There is no conspiracy. The fact is Harrison has a history of illegal hits and he has been punished accordingly. You don''t have to like the rules, but Harrison knew the rules and broke them anyway. If Harrison was on the Ravens this board would be calling him the dirtiest player in the league.

 

I thought you were done with the Steelers? Figured you and Edogg were watching the Raven's by now?

 

While there probably isnt an NFL conspiracy against the Steelers i think the original poster was trying to say there is a media bias against the Steelers and belive me ESPN has agendas wether its made up accusations of wire tapping by the saints, or slanting coverage of SEC football, or Tebow they have their agendas. Again, Im not saying ESPN has one against us, but i see what he is saying

 

While there probably isnt an NFL conspiracy against the Steelers i think the original poster was trying to say there is a media bias against the Steelers and belive me ESPN has agendas wether its made up accusations of wire tapping by the saints, or slanting coverage of SEC football, or Tebow they have their agendas. Again, Im not saying ESPN has one against us, but i see what he is saying[/quote:1f27qxhf]



Oh bull****.


They cover the sec more because they are simply the best conference in NCAA football. As much as I hate tebow he's still a very good football player and a huge human interest story.

 

While there probably isnt an NFL conspiracy against the Steelers i think the original poster was trying to say there is a media bias against the Steelers and belive me ESPN has agendas wether its made up accusations of wire tapping by the saints, or slanting coverage of SEC football, or Tebow they have their agendas. Again, Im not saying ESPN has one against us, but i see what he is saying[/quote:1qhduyds]

You're right, they have an agenda, it's called ratings. They report on whatever gets them the highest ratings.
These threads are beyond ridiculous. There is no conspiracy from anyone against the Steelers. Some individual people may not like the Steelers, but you're trying to tell me an entire network is against one of the most cherished and followed teams in the league? Really, a TV network is going to go against one of the teams with the most fans in the nation? Don't you see how ridiculous that is.

 

Time for an Avitar!!!!!!!!

 

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not. Have you been paying attention? The man will fork over the integrity of the game for a 5 dollar bill.

 

You're right, they have an agenda, it's called ratings. They report on whatever gets them the highest ratings.
These threads are beyond ridiculous. There is no conspiracy from anyone against the Steelers. Some individual people may not like the Steelers, but you're trying to tell me an entire network is against one of the most cherished and followed teams in the league? Really, a TV network is going to go against one of the teams with the most fans in the nation? Don't you see how ridiculous that is.[/quote:i198io28]
The massive conspiracy theories -- the idea that there is a secret lair where ESPN, NFL Network, and Goodell meet to discuss how next to hurt the feelings of Steeler fans -- is obviously nuts. But to me it's just as nuts to pretend that nothing is going on. There has been a clear and repetitive bias against the Steelers when it comes to certain things over the last couple of years. Frankly, I think that bias might be eroding now, because they are sort of "catching up" with the rest of the teams. But it was really, really clear in 2010 and 2011. Refs would throw flags against Steelers that they wouldn't against other teams. It became routine. Now, were words actually spoken that said, "Get the Steelers and no one else"? I doubt it. Were they more like, "Make sure you don't let them (the Steelers) get away with this"? Maybe. Was it just a glance and nod? Maybe. I have no idea. But I know for certain what took place on the field, and I refuse to believe it was unlucky coincidence followed by unlucky coincidence followed by unlucky coincidence. It was NOT just a couple bad calls like every team gets every week. It was a vendetta. To me, when you are singling out a team the way they did, that counts as a conspiracy. I can't stand that anyone who sees a conspiracy is immediately labeled a nutjob. With unwritten rules like that in place, why wouldn't they commit conspiracies?? Conspiracies happen sometimes. Hell, they happen all the time. I've witnessed one and I've been the victim of one in two separate workplaces. And I'm not even 30. I don't see why it's so hard to believe.

As for the networks, they will do what they have to do for themselves. That includes never shutting up about Brett Favre or Tim Tebow, showing fan twitter feeds like they're news, catering to teenagers or those that think like them, and generally being wrong about lots of stuff. They say negative, stupid, incorrect stuff about the Steelers regularly. They also say positive stuff about the Steelers, plenty of it stupid and incorrect. That bothers me just as much, like they're just trying to balance stuff out instead of being real. They're just massive pandering and advertising machines.

 

The massive conspiracy theories -- the idea that there is a secret lair where ESPN, NFL Network, and Goodell meet to discuss how next to hurt the feelings of Steeler fans -- is obviously nuts. But to me it's just as nuts to pretend that nothing is going on. There has been a clear and repetitive bias against the Steelers when it comes to certain things over the last couple of years. Frankly, I think that bias might be eroding now, because they are sort of "catching up" with the rest of the teams. But it was really, really clear in 2010 and 2011. Refs would throw flags against Steelers that they wouldn't against other teams. It became routine. Now, were words actually spoken that said, "Get the Steelers and no one else"? I doubt it. Were they more like, "Make sure you don't let them (the Steelers) get away with this"? Maybe. Was it just a glance and nod? Maybe. I have no idea. But I know for certain what took place on the field, and I refuse to believe it was unlucky coincidence followed by unlucky coincidence followed by unlucky coincidence. It was NOT just a couple bad calls like every team gets every week. It was a vendetta. To me, when you are singling out a team the way they did, that counts as a conspiracy. I can't stand that anyone who sees a conspiracy is immediately labeled a nutjob. With unwritten rules like that in place, why wouldn't they commit conspiracies?? Conspiracies happen sometimes. Hell, they happen all the time. I've witnessed one and I've been the victim of one in two separate workplaces. And I'm not even 30. I don't see why it's so hard to believe.

As for the networks, they will do what they have to do for themselves. That includes never shutting up about Brett Favre or Tim Tebow, showing fan twitter feeds like they're news, catering to teenagers or those that think like them, and generally being wrong about lots of stuff. They say negative, stupid, incorrect stuff about the Steelers regularly. They also say positive stuff about the Steelers, plenty of it stupid and incorrect. That bothers me just as much, like they're just trying to balance stuff out instead of being real. They're just massive pandering and advertising machines.[/quote:ytopzdh5]


Well, answer me this then. If it was so obvious that the refs were throwing flags against the Steelers that they wouldn't against other teams, routinely, time after time after time, Howz come the Steelers were only the 12th most penalized team in 2010 and 16th most in 2011? Wouldn't such an obivous ref/league office bias have at least pushed them into the top 10???

I've lived in 4 different NFL cities in my life, and I followed the local teams in each one. I never, EVER heard a fan do anything other than ***** that refs had it in for his guys. Never once heard anyone say that they thought their guys got a break. It's always easier to blame someone else for your shortcomings, and the zebras are an easy target.

 

Well, answer me this then. If it was so obvious that the refs were throwing flags against the Steelers that they wouldn't against other teams, routinely, time after time after time, Howz come the Steelers were only the 12th most penalized team in 2010 and 16th most in 2011? Wouldn't such an obivous ref/league office bias have at least pushed them into the top 10???

I've lived in 4 different NFL cities in my life, and I followed the local teams in each one. I never, EVER heard a fan do anything other than ***** that refs had it in for his guys. Never once heard anyone say that they thought their guys got a break. It's always easier to blame someone else for your shortcomings, and the zebras are an easy target. [/quote:2m64r6ku]

 

Oh bulls**t.


They cover the sec more because they are simply the best conference in NCAA football. As much as I hate tebow he's still a very good football player and a huge human interest story.[/quote:ebcbn2az]

What I meant by slanting is the fact ESPN paid alot of money to broadcast SEC games, therefore they will do their best to promote the sec and view it in a more favorable light, thats all. When every football broadcaster from the mothership goes out of their way to tell me every 10 seconds during sec games about how the sec is soooo great and the biggest day in missouri football history was when they joined the sec, its a bit much. The whole Cam Newtons dad asking schools to pay for his sons services got about 10 minutes of run. But espn had reporters staked out in Columbus digging up every available bit of dirt on Ohio State because of tattoos. Its no secret espn was none too happy about the big 10 creating their own network either. The sec may be a better confrence, but espn goes out of their way to promote their product, thus their agenda to make sure the sec gets more coverage. If it was about ratings they wouldnt spend so much time on tebow because most people are over saturated with it and turn the channel. There are other well documented stories out there about espns dealings. Look it up. But I do not believe there is an espn/ goodell conspiracy againt us, just saying espn does what it does

 

Oh bulls**t.


They cover the sec more because they are simply the best conference in NCAA football. As much as I hate tebow he's still a very good football player and a huge human interest story.[/quote:2wkj1qla]

What I meant by slanting is the fact ESPN paid alot of money to broadcast SEC games, therefore they will do their best to promote the sec and view it in a more favorable light, thats all. When every football broadcaster from the mothership goes out of their way to tell me every 10 seconds during sec games about how the sec is soooo great and the biggest day in missouri football history was when they joined the sec, its a bit much. The whole Cam Newtons dad asking schools to pay for his sons services got about 10 minutes of run. But espn had reporters staked out in Columbus digging up every available bit of dirt on Ohio State because of tattoos. Its no secret espn was none too happy about the big 10 creating their own network either. The sec may be a better confrence, but espn goes out of their way to promote their product, thus their agenda to make sure the sec gets more coverage. If it was about ratings they wouldnt spend so much time on tebow because most people are over saturated with it and turn the channel. There are other well documented stories out there about espns dealings. Look it up. But I do not believe there is an espn/ goodell conspiracy againt us, just saying espn does what it does[/quote:2wkj1qla]

I don't know what you were watching, but down here in SEC country Cam Newton and his dad was the story all day every day for weeks. What ever the story is du jour they cover it PS, OS, AB whichever school. If you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. THat's exactly what happened to PS, OSU etc. THere's no stupid media bias singling out whichever school you happen to root for. As soon as the Big 10, 12 etc starts putting multiple teams in the top ten year after year and doesn't get spanked repeatedly in the NCAA finals then they'll be the headline. Until then ESPN is going to give top billing and the most coverage to the best teams in the nation and sadly for you those teams come from the SEC.

 

Well, answer me this then. If it was so obvious that the refs were throwing flags against the Steelers that they wouldn't against other teams, routinely, time after time after time, Howz come the Steelers were only the 12th most penalized team in 2010 and 16th most in 2011? Wouldn't such an obivous ref/league office bias have at least pushed them into the top 10???

I've lived in 4 different NFL cities in my life, and I followed the local teams in each one. I never, EVER heard a fan do anything other than ***** that refs had it in for his guys. Never once heard anyone say that they thought their guys got a break. It's always easier to blame someone else for your shortcomings, and the zebras are an easy target.[/quote:2goscqes]
You're using penalty stats to counter my argument? I didn't say we were getting penalized more than other teams, I said they were throwing flags against us that they wouldn't throw against other teams. I'm talking about individual plays. Do you not remember any of them? Feel free to tell me whatever our personal foul stats were for those years; it still won't address the issue of the individual plays. To say we weren't getting "special" treatment from the refs anytime a hard hit on a receiver or quarterback was involved -- especially if it was made by Clark or Harrison -- is simply revisionist history. Any major collision resulted in a flag and/or fine, regardless of how legal it was. On offense, the rules seemed reversed. Defenses could do what they pleased to our quarterback and it would usually go uncalled. I didn't realize this part of it was even in question among people paying attention. Even ScottChab has admitted that we got bad calls against us for no other reason than who we are. The difference between us being that I think that's unfair and he thinks fairness is not an issue, and we should shut up and adjust to being screwed.

I don't go looking to blame other people to make me feel better (although I know a lot of people do), but when other people are to blame for something, should I pretend they're not? Because it's more "mature" or manly or becoming or something? Because it "makes us sound like Seahawks fans" (from SB XL)? I've already heard people saying it's the Packers' own fault for losing that game to Seattle, for a number of reasons. Yeah, you could ALWAYS say that. If only the Packers had played better throughout the game and been up by 9 points instead of only 5, that hail mary would have been meaningless. If only Jennings had batted the ball down (which worked out so well for the Titans the day before) instead of making a clean, high interception and risking one of the most bizarre officiating errors we've seen in a long time, it probably would have been incomplete. If only Ryan Clark had made a clean and legal hit to the knees instead of a clean and legal hit to the chest, it wouldn't have been as tempting for the refs to throw a flag. If only we'd gotten a sack on that play, Clark's hit never would have happened. If only Ben hadn't thrown a pick-6 against the Jags in '07, the phantom holding call on Hartwig and missed holding calls on Garrad's run wouldn't have happened or mattered. If only we or other teams had beaten the cheating Patriots a decade ago, their cheating wouldn't have mattered. I guess until we play a perfect game in every phase (which has never and will never happen in the NFL), bad calls, cheating, and avoidable/intentional injustice will never make a difference.

When you are genuinely screwed over by something unfair, as all teams sometimes are, I think it's the right of the fans to complain about that. If you don't want to because that's not your style, then great. But don't act like complaining over something made up out of butthurt feelings is the same thing as complaining over something completely unfair. One is making excuses, the other is pointing out a problem.

 

It's Obama's fault.

 

Boy, I'm disappointed in you since I leared that "Even you admitted" that the Steeler got ball calls against them. Tsk, Tsk, I'll have to bring up the topic of your expulsion at the next group meeting of Black & Gold Glasses Anonymous.