Ryan Clark Says Defense Predicatable

Yea they were talking abought that on firsttake earlier untill Bayless got on a rant abought Tebow.

 

2 out of 3 teams we've played so far this year have said the same thing. Sanchez was lighting us up until he took that shot to the head. Now Ryan Clark also says publicly that we're predictable.

If this doesn't change, is there any reason not to fire Lebeau mid-season? What is the upside to keeping him around? Teams have fired coaches mid-season before. It's not like our defence can get any worse.

 

Can someone put an actual hyperlink in this thread. I can't copy and paste that link on my phone, I need an actual link I can click on.

 

DL will coach the Steelers Defense as long as he chooses to....(and they are performing) Just last season this same defense that is predictable and under performing was #1 in the league..... If he is top 5 when the season is over...its not even in question he is coming back again IMO.


HACK

 

The defense didn't PLAY anybody. We all knew that defense was not the best in the league. Not by a long shot. The defense had ONE really, really good game: vs New England. And this was because they...voila!...changed up their scheme and confused the heck out of Brady, who later said, "I've never seen them play that much man." So does LeBeau use this as a blue print, to "change things up" to adjust to opponents or make in-game adjustments? NOPE.

 

right now lebau cost us 2 games in the first 3 weeks

 

I have mixed feelings about this. 2 games in the same scheme and the opposing OC will pretty much know what you are going to do. That is just reality. I used to work with a former NFL coach, he used to say the same thing to our team. I don't care if they know we are running that play....the play is designed to work even if they do know.

That being said, I would love to actually NOT do the same things all the time. If we are getting burned in our "normal" D, then we need to be capable to change it up in order to get a stop.

Everyone on here can tell you our D tendencies.

1. Ike will press cover, 2nd CB will play off and get help over the top from Clark.
2. Woodley and Harrison will both come on the rush "almost" every time.
3. Our Dlineman are now known for not trying to rush the passer, but take up other lineman so the blitz can work. Now that teams know this, they scheme to block our DL with only 1 guy each....no matter what.
4. When we blitz it is going to typically come from Foote or Timmons up the middle and slightly delayed.
5. Troy brings unpredictability cause they let him roam...no one else does.
6. Our run D depends on the ILBs getting to the holes.

Anything I'm missing? Oh yeah, if you keep your routes short and quick all game we will never get pressure on you and you can do it all day.

 

that's the biggest problem our dl can't win a one on one battle , then the 10 yard cushion , this two things are killing us

 

Bull****. NE, Ratbirds twice, 49ers, Houston, even the bungals and cards were not horrible. And they only avg allowing 11 pts per game. It was the offense last yr who couldnt score.

And you dont throw the baby out with the bath water. DL deserves respect and shouldnt just be fired on the spot. Maybe the master mind is working on a plan. But he should be given the chance to fix it.

What I love about the steelers, once you talk junk about them in the media, and the negative talk starts, it usually pisses them off and they step up. But then again, do we really want to go to the superbowl with these refs calling the game? Imagine the frustration if we lost in the playoffs to the ratbirds or lost another superbowl bc of a call like in the packers game the other night. Maybe this is the perfect yr to have an offseason.

 

Sacks/ pressure and turnovers have been pretty rare last 2 years

 

I said this the other day. It feels like Lebeau just doesn't trust this group as much from past defenses as far as coming with something exotic. But really how can u feel nice an cozy leaving keenan lewis on an island. We used to have dlineman dropping into coverage and bringing the olb and the cb or ilb off the edge at the same time. Thos are the things I haven't seen in quite a while or maybe they are still doing it but we just don't have the personel we used to have at one point.

I think Lebeau still can fool you but he knows he doesn't have the people to do it right now, especially at cb, ilb and de.

 

I can't think of a single reason not to fire Dick LeBeau right now.

 

I think we have been somewhat predictable on defense for years. The difference now is that we are not executing. In the past, you could know our defense and try to exploit it and it wouldn't work. Now, with injury and age, we can't simply inflict our will on our opponents anymore.

 

No WAY was the Steeler D #1 in the league last year- yes I know per the NFL rank that is how they were listed but - no, just no.

 

What number were they in your opinion? I don't see how anyone could keep them out of the top 4 or 5, regardless of any statistics.

 

Thats because we don't have the horses we had in the past. We had aaron smith and farrior on this defense for a decade and they were 2 of the top players at their positions.

To me ziggy is a 4-3 dt he is not a 3-4 end. Foote has always been dependable but just not as talented as farrior and timmons seems to lackadasical.

I think heyward needs to have a shot opposite keisel and see what he can do, maybe beef up ziggy a little more and see if he can play the nose.

 

I know I don't watch a lot of other NFL games, but I do watch some of them...

It appears to me that the other NFL defenses are fairing worse than the Steelers. Big plays. Mass burns. Huge runs.

I think we're a bit spoiled.

I agree the Steelers should be able to stop a 34 point barrage, cause a couple turnovers, and get a handful of sacks, per game. However, all they really need to do, at this point, and, until they work out the kinks, is keep teams under 17 points, and not give up splash plays. As long as special teams plays disciplined, and (more importantly), offense plays explosively (as they can), then Steelers post wins for the rest of the season.

By mid-season, the defense should be clicking. But I do agree with others... we need Troy and Harrison back to inject both fear, in opponents, and unpredictability, on the field.

Thoughts?

 

their defense last year was not as good as their ranking. anyone that watched them play could see that. the Broncos exposed them for what they were in that playoff game. there were holes in that defense and TIM TEBOW found them all. TIM TEBOW. that should pretty much tell you all you need to know about their defense and this season hasnt been any different.

the one sack that Woodley had last sunday was a beautiful play call, but i never saw them try it again. i love DL, but sometimes change is not only good, but neccessary. they would never fire him in the middle of the season, but either he changes his scheme or its going to be a tough year.

 

Steelers defense has become too predictable

In today's Pittsburgh Tribune Review there's a article about this subject I have been saying this forever. Opposing teams know what to expect in the 2 losses against Denver and Oakland the defense couldn't get a stop, those teams scored on all their second half possessions 8 total. The return of Troy and Harrison won't make that much of a difference troy hasn't been great since his 2010 DPOY season and Harrison is just about done. I don't see Harrison returning from knee surgery and then start dominating like his old self.