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Rudolph and Duck

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steel_d_curtain, Dec 22, 2019.

  1. Clive From PIT

    Clive From PIT I don't often drink...but I'm starting to. Site Admin

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    Well, that’s happening.
     
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  2. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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  3. Steel Hog

    Steel Hog Well-Known Member

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    He was booted out of Cleveland as well as Denver. In other words he sucks.
     
  4. Jammasterc

    Jammasterc Well-Known Member

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    Then they need to be in Kansas City.
     
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  5. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they need to listen to is principles and study his fundamentals?
     
  6. The Glory Days

    The Glory Days Well-Known Member

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    Fixed
     
  7. RichD

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    Rudolf should still be in the mix . Ben has 2 more years on contract and so does Mason .
    Gotta let this play out the kid has some skills . 2 more years of development could be a boon for Steelers.
    Maybe 5 starts next 2 years if Ben stays healthy. So when MR becomes FA not much for him to flee to except as a QB2 elsewhere .

    But with Steelers when Ben is gone in 2022 he has a starter chance .We get him for 2 /22mil as a starter for cheap or we let him walk and be gone. Steelers should know a lot more about him in the next 2 years .

    When I was kid watching NFL , QB`s were given time to develop . Not 1 year but 2-3 . Sure the game was different and running the ball was the game . But damn, now they give up on a young QB too quick . It a process . Build a solid O-line , draft a solid RB then get your young QB. But nope its all ass backwards nowadays.

    Case in point the Browns … Baker should just be handing the ball off to Chubb and Hunt for 30 plays per game .Having to deal with diva high dollar WR is a distraction . These guys are too much trouble and not worth the money.
     
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  8. steelersrule6

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    It's time for Duck to get on with his life's work, he doesn't have an NFL arm.
     
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  9. KMM

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    The OU-LSU game is indicative of why Big XII QBs, with the exception of Mahomes and maybe Mayfield and Murray eventually, have pretty much been terrible at the next level. That conference plays no defense whatsoever. It's why MR's college numbers are completely useless in terms of projecting to the NFL.
     
  10. Robert

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    Agree. Rudolph can't muster any offense, and the Duck starts most plays by running backwards followed by throwing a pass that is caught 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage. :(
     
  11. Robert

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    Big Ben doesn't have many years left in him I think. The person who will replace him needs to show up soon.
     
  12. Jball

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    How bad must Lynch be? Honestly, with the season on the line, Duck threw for less tha 100 yards. He was like 8 for 47 tonight, and they still wouldn't throw a hail mary with Lynch.

    Question is, why is he on your roster if he's completely unusable?
     
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  13. RichD

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    Duck had a nice run and made some good money . But he will not be back, it was a nice story but the guy has a popgun arm .

    Rudolf will be QB2 next year . Hopefully 85 % of Ben returns , that would be enough to keep us viable , if we can get some kind of running game going.

    Its going to be a fun offseason . I bet Colbert leaves to Panthers .

    Cincy grabs LSU Burrows , Clev has boatload of talent , Balt and then us with 38 year old vet at qb .

    Lots of ways the worm could turn for Steelers . I would try to trade some talent for picks this next year .

    Raiders need WR and Ju Ju would look good in Vegas for a 2nd round pick .
     
  14. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    Rudolph has an NFL future. Hodges will catch on somewhere as a #3 but he just doesn't have the tools. I still think our OC did him very little favor.
     
  15. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then Hodges probably threw another duck of a pass :facepalm:.
     
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  16. bigbenhotness

    bigbenhotness Well-Known Member

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    Rudolph does?
     
  17. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    Of course. Anyone writing off Rudolph as not belonging in the NFL is just wrong.

    I think it's absolutely fair to question whether he is a franchise QB, but he has all the tools to hang around the NFL.

    Outside of the Cleveland game and the 1st half of the Bengals game, he was ok this year. Considering he was basically a rookie. As the #3 last year, he didn't get much work done. He even came into camo this year as the #3.

    Give him this camp as the #2 and you will see improvement.

    He went through a horrible stretch this year. He will learn from it and rebound.
     
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  18. SteelersFanIrl

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    I also hold some hope for Rudolph. I’m not sure where his ceiling is but I believe he can be a starter if the game slows down for him between the ears. We shall see.
     
  19. bigbenhotness

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    I hope so
     
  20. SteelCity_NB

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    Just consider the 1st round QBs from 2018 and 2019.

    Exclude Lamar Jackson as he has obviously hit his ceiling potential and had an offense built around his abilities. Clearly a home run pick.

    2018:
    Baker Mayfield
    Sam Darnold
    Josh Allen
    Josh Rosen

    2019:
    Kyler Murray
    Daniel Jones
    Dwayne Haskins

    Now Baker had a terrific 2018 but crash landed in 2019.

    Darnold has been pedestrian both years. I am a Darnold fan and think he can turn it around but 2 mediocre seasons so far.

    Josh Allen is a guy who needs to play on a good team. He is wildly inaccurate and most of his success comes with his legs.

    Josh Rosen may not have any NFL future.

    Kyler Murray can throw for alot of yards but really had a roller coaster season.

    Daniel Jones didn't really have too many standout moments and that offense goes through Saquon Barkley.

    Dwayne Haskins didn't look very good this year.

    All these guys went in the first round.

    We got Mason in the 3rd round. We only saw him for half a season this year and as I mentioned he didn't see that much work in either of his 2 camps.

    I don't think anyone in this above list has separated themselves as a bona fide franchise QB yet. Jury is out on Mason. People can lump him in with Duck as being bad this year but I believe Mason has a much brighter future.

    Let's all hope Ben is back healthy in 2020. Let Mason be the backup. Bring in a vet as the #3. One with more experience that Paxton Lynch or JT Barrett.
     
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  21. Brice

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    I like Lynch at the #3 spot next year; who may be able to give Mason a run for the #2 next year.

    Big fan of Mason's until game time, when I noticed he has a bad habit of throwing off his back foot. Went back and looked at his college tapes where he did the same thing.

    Mason will never make it in the NFL throwing the way he is now; no Zip on his passes throwing off his back foot. His current style is to lob the ball down the field. Speedy CBs eat his passes for breakfast. Also explains why he seems to throw behind his receivers most of the time.
     
  22. TRUCK

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    Just remember this thread next season. I hope I don't see a repeat of posts in past years. Ben would throw a few picks and have a bad game, resulting in several board members calling for his benching and replacement with the back-up.
     

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